Texas set to execute a man who didn't kill anyone

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  1. Doofenshmirtz

    Doofenshmirtz Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/us/texas-execution-jeff-wood/index.html

    What do you think?

     
  2. Sanskrit

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    "Felony murder" doctrine carries the same penalties as murder in every state I'm aware of, not sure about DP ramifications. But yeah, IMO, if someone dies in the course of a felony, I surely believe that should be treated as murder with the stiffest penalties available.
     
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    ararmer1919 Banned

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    If someone dies as a result of a crime you are an accomplice to, then you are just as guilty as the one who pulled the trigger.
     
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    What was his plea at the original trial?
     
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  6. Texan

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    It sounds like he did the crime. I don't care if he pulled the trigger or his accomplice. How long have I been paying his room, board, and legal fees?

    We need to either crank up the rate of executions or make prisons more self sufficient. I don't care which if not both.
     
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    I have no problem with this.
     
  8. Nordic Democrat

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    The death penalty is more expensive to implement. You also sound like you're not a fan of human rights....you should be more concerned about your tax dollars going to pay for bailing out bankers.
     
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    I disagree. He was not in a position to prevent that killing. He did not know that it was going to occur..

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    He shouldn't even be in prison at this point, let alone on death row and about to die.
     
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    No, it is not. In fact it's dirt cheap. It's the endless appeals, investigators and psych evals that cost a bundle.
     
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    Actually it is more expensive, that's a fact. And WITH the death penalty come the liberties of appeals, tougher investigations and psych evals. If you want to kill our citizens without due process, come outright and say so.
     
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    I vehemently disagree with this.

    You're the guy, anxiously awaiting. Get the safe, live in Mexico. Probably the dream.

    Buddy kills dude. Spontaneous decision made by an INDIVIDUAL. Not the one in question.

    What math fo you use? Because it's blatantly clear, two crimes were committed, one within the other. Had the robbery not taken place, the murder Sure as hell wouldn't have. If the robbery went to plan, no murder takes place. It wasn't planned by the man, and he didn't make any DECISIONS that, known to him, directly resulted in the murder. So in what just land can he be brought to the death penalty

    Oh yeah, we're talking about Texas...

    On the same logic, maybe we should start holding voters responsible for the decisions their elected officials make that result in loss of lives overseas. Maybe we'll see more responsible voters and officials. I like this, what do you think?
     
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    I've already payed for it. Should I continue to pay for his care?
     
  14. Texan

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    Do you understand what armed robbery is? The shooter and the driver knew that he had a weapon and that the plan was to THREATEN TO KILL SOMEBODY to get money from a cash register. The driver is just as guilty. He put his life in the hands of his partner not to commit murder.

    If the cashier drew a gun to shoot the robber, would the robber be able to claim "self defense"?
     
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    The solution to reducing prison costs isn't capital punishment, it's not imprisoning people for nonviolent drug-related offenses. Also, the most efficient way in general to save money on taxes is to cut our ridiculously overlarge military, which is literally 13 times as large as the second largest military in the world, Russia's. At least a fourth of your tax dollars are going towards the military, and that is frankly ridiculous.
     
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    I think I looked up his executed partner in crime.

    On his site this is there.

     
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    Why don't you try to stay on topic. The military has nothing to do with this.

    You want to lower prison costs?

    They can grow their own food.

    They can make furniture for government offices.

    Work 6 days/week and only worked days count toward sentence.

    Bologna or pb&j for lunch.

    No cable TV, weight rooms, etc.....

    They get no better healthcare than is given in the VA. They deserve the same wait times.
     
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    Let's add to the suspense.

    This man will die.

    And at first I questioned TX justice.

    But read all the facts.

    Juries don't simply convict of murder because they have nothing better to do. They are told two stories.

    Story A by the prosecution. At during trial the Jury is told the law elements.

    This man and his pal planned it. The fact is the killer entered with a gun. And the guy waiting knew of the gun. And once the clerk got killed, the soon to be executed perp was also inside to get the safe.
    http://www.txexecutions.org/reports/272-Daniel-Reneau.htm
     
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    Texas prison actually used to make money. They grew their own food, made their own clothes.
     
  20. Texan

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    We need to go back to this.
     
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    Being a part of a deadly armed robbery, means you intended to kill someone. Whether you pulled the trigger or not is irrelevant. Fry his worthless ass. I'm sure every drunk driver that killed someone never intended to murder anyone before they got behind the wheel....but they sure as (*)(*)(*)(*) didn't give a crap either. Fry them all=) Murder by ignorance is still murder.
     
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    It's not a human right to go around killing people and then get away with it. IMO most killers need to be removed from society as permanently as possible. We are always hearing about violent people released on parole that again harm others...or continue to harm others even if incarcerated.
     
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    Something our undercover war mongers need to remember. It is not inconceivable that some of them will end up with such charges in one court or another. Representing the US in various capacities does not give the right to murder. This is also true for our police.
     
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    Which is nothing when you compare it to the social/welfare programs.
     
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