Texas Will Require Burial of Aborted Fetuses

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  1. DarkSkies

    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    The difference is a diseased organ and tumors can't possibly grow into small humans whereas a fetus can.

    Question: Do you truly not see the difference between a diseased organ and a tumor versus a fetus?
     
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    No, it doesn't. I had some lumps removed from my hand and the doctor asked if I wanted them....if I did (yuck, no) they were MINE.
     
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    I think you mean pregnancy is wholly preventable and it isn't....birth control fails and no woman is obligated to put drugs and/or foreign objects in her body just to make you feel good.

    BTW, abortion in the case of rape is exactly the same procedure and same outcome as abortion due to consensual sex.




    No more than any other legal medical procedure....seems like all you want to do is shame and punish women for having sex.



    They don't....not all women are unfeeling monsters that you appear to think they are..



    So put down that cheeseburger , go out and run several miles and then work out.....I want your reckless behavior curbed so I don't have to pay for your heart attack...
     
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    As it's part of the woman, YES!
     
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    DarkSkies Well-Known Member

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    1. You forgot about the man. He should be wearing protection and since it's the woman who will carry the baby if an accident happens, she should make sure he's birth controlled before she screws with him.

    2. Yes, people who have poor health by their own choices shouldn't be subsidized either.

    3. All your other points are irrelevant to anything I said.
     
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    Therefore, all your positions on this topic are extreme/wholly irrational. Take care Fox.
     
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    Great, I hope you're ready to go on the vegan diet I have prepared for you, otherwise you shouldn't be subsidized.
     
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    Now you are prevaricating. Here are your original words;

    The removal of an organ is no different to the removal of a fetus since BOTH are MEDICAL PROCEDURES and BOTH result in the REMOVAL of HUMAN TISSUE.

    One piece of human tissue is not significantly different to any other.

    Consider a stem cell transplant for Multiple Myeloma. The diseased marrow is removed as waste by the body after it is effectively killed off by chemo treatment. Then the white stem cells from the patient's blood are reintroduced and regrow the marrow.

    In essence the diseased tissue is replaced by the specialized stem cells that would regrow any organ in the body that has been removed because that is how human tissue is designed to regenerate.

    Since a stem cell can become any other kind of cell that means that it could also potentially become another human being.

    This means that just cutting yourself while shaving would lead to a loss of stem cells that are no different in principle to the fetal tissue.

    Your allegation is that doctors must not be "desensitized" to the removal of human tissue is bogus because it fails to take into account all of the other medical procedures that are essentially no different. Lazik surgery removes human tissue and restores eyesight so why is that human tissue not given a burial?

    The bovine excrement about "desensitization" is complete and utter drivel. Human tissue can and does contain hazards so there are established procedures for ensuring that it is disposed of in an manner that limits those hazards.

    A fetus can be infected his HIV/AIDS but you are demanding that it must be embalmed and buried? What about the risks to those preparing the fetus for burial? Did you ever consider those lives that you are placing in needless jeopardy?
     
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    Even condoms can fail and NO one is obligated top use them.



    So America shouldn't take care of it's sick....well THAT attitude is sick...


    No, you just couldn't address or refute them :)
     
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    Yes, it would be nice and

    ...there would be Free abortion clinics in every bar and hardware store and

    ...men would BRAG about their abortions

    ...be praised for not having kids they don't want or can't afford


    ...be considered heroes for not bringing more unwanted kids onto this overcrowded earth

    ...and get PAID for it...since men get paid more for things women do for less.
     
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    Is that a warning?
     
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    ??? I'm pretty healthy so don't know what you're talking about.
     
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    It was not my words to equate the fetus to a diseased organ or tumors. A fetus can grow into another human, these other things you are talking about cannot.
     
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    ??? No. I just said take care meaning be well (because I was done making my point).

    Your position seems incredibly extreme and in my experience, extremists are wholly unreasonable so it becomes a complete waste of time trying to explain my point of view to them. It was my way of saying I'm done trying to convince you of my pov.
     
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    I'm sure you do think women having the right to their own bodies as everyone has ( my position) IS "" incredibly extreme""....but you are in the minority....most people think everyone should have equal rights..
     
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    I'll be the judge of that, and if you get sick we're gonna blame it on your unhealthy lifestyle.
     
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    Stem cells can grow into beating human hearts.

    https://www.popsci.com/scientists-grow-transplantable-hearts-with-stem-cells

    How is that different given that a heart transplant can SAVE a human life?

    http://discovermagazine.com/2014/jan-feb/05-stem-cell-future

    The point here is that any human tissue containing stem cells can save a life therefore it deserves a "decent burial" under the same bogus rationale that you are advocating.
     
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    Demanding that fetal tissue must be "buried" is unreasonable extremism.
     
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    Kudo's are not appropriate for people who lack the intelligence to figure out the difference between a single human cell and a baby. These folks should be sent to an education camp for a weekend.

    That said .. I have nothing against burying the remains of abortion if it makes people happy.
     
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