Thank you, Lincoln Project

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  1. Patricio Da Silva

    Patricio Da Silva Well-Known Member Donor

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    Horse poop. Scoop Jackson was a militarist who favored FDR programs, and no neocon I know today can be considered a 'lineal defendant ( decendant? ) of Scoop Jackson. Neocons are much closer to neoliberals insofar as favoring free markets, but differing with them on foreign policy.
    Neoconservatives are republicans, ( of course there are some moderate democrat hawks who are considered to be neocons, as well) it's just one of the flavors of conservativism -- everyone on that list are all republicans or rather, were republicans before Trump finally settled and made up his mind to be a republican. Neoconservatives are moderates, but interventionist hawks on foreign policy. George Bush and many on his team were neocons. I'm willing to bet each one on that list vary in their conservative philosophy whereupon you cannot simply pidgeonhole them all into one flavor of conservative. YOu are implying they are not republicans, and your implication is absolutely false. Once thing is certain, Trump's movement is not conservative at all. I would say everyone on that list are mainstream republicans. Many have left the party because the party has left them, and went with Trump. The GOP is dead. But everyone on that list were solid and practicing members of the GOP before Trump came along and smashed it dead as spent doornails. Anyone following Trump is going to find out his politics are the politics of a decaying movement. All he did was give an under represented sector of society a voice, who never really had one before and duped them into doing their ugly and illegal thing on January 6, and a good swath of them will be in jail soon, thanks to Trump, who threw each and every one of them under the bus. But, notably, that they were easily duped into doing it says a lot about who they were.

    As for 'big government' all republicans have been paying lip service to the idea, but with each and every republican who ever took the office, the budgets and the government grew, so, that particular point is meaningless.
     
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    Ah you told the truth, almost. There is no question that both parties have been involved in unwarranted spending of non existent government money. Both parties have grown government. The error is that it is not meaningless. in fact it is the only truly important issue we face today in federal government. Everything else is chicken feed compared to the fiscal irresponsibility of federal government. It isn't lip service. The government simply ignores it and does what it wants to do.
     
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    Every major contributor to the lying bastards was part of the far left billionaire boys club. And the effective difference between Scoop Jackson Democrats and Neocons is, in the end, the name.
     
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    What I meant by 'meaningless', is that , as you say, both parties are guilty of same, and as a point of criticism, it's meaningless precisely in the sense that it not something prone to dems, but both parties. Your criticism to dems for big spending isn't unique to dems, and that is what I meant by 'meaningless'. Of course it's a valid issue, and meaningful in that sense, But, if you levy that criticism against dems, and you want that criticism to be meaningful, then you must tell the whole truth, that both parties are guilty of same, which you didn't do. But, the debate is about where the money goes. Repubs want more military, less entitlements, and dems want less military, and more entitlements.
     
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    I didn't blame dems for crazy spending. I blamed government. The debate is not about where the money goes. The debate is about spending money the government doesn't have to spend. Democrats appear to care less about government borrowing and money supply expansion than republicans do. But republicans play along anyway. It is corruption. It is the most serious issue facing america by a very very long shot. We argue about the names of schools or why people should get a vaccine while ignoring the path to the economic destruction of the nation. You can have all the military and social spending you want as long as you don't borrow or print the money to pay for it. I'm very serious.
     
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    Nothing but RINOs

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    Of course that bunch of rino losers (Lincoln Project) are not just traitors to the Republican party, but they are basically traitors to America. All of those losers were never ever Republicans to begin with. Has anyone ever asked any of those weirdoes as to what Republican/Conservative successful/productive policy of Trump's they disagreed with? Where do they stand on the issues of the day? You see, these phonies are no different then the entire leftist contingent that have nothing to offer America with their sidestepping everything of importance so they can spew their utter hate for America's most successful president. And did anyone shed a tear when these useless-feckless overpaid yahoos got their wonderful Lincoln Project trashed? What's next for these idiots....perhaps a spot on late night TV, for who else is going to have anything to do with those skunks?
     
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    Ouch.

    That did not age well.
     
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    I don't tink that those gutless wonders of the now Infamous
    Lincoln Project tend to share your kudos.I could not stand to listen
    on MSNBC to Steve { SS Steve } Schultz as he was so cartoonish
    with his commenting on Trump and the Trump Republicans.
    About the only more clueless and American sell-outs could be
    Little Donnie Deutsche and Michael Steele.And of course Female
    MSNBC SS strongarm mate ... Little Pathetic Liar Nicolle Wallace.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Which begs a very important point.Do those like aging
    Grandma Nancy Pelosi even realize there their days on earth
    are numbered.Very few Politicans reach the age of 100.
    Yet Pelosi seems just as Happy as a clam to spread her
    version of Political Hate.Normally those type humans cut their
    chances of living a longer life by years.Consider it a combination
    of What Goes around comes around to the the effects of a guilty
    conscience.Especially when growing up in All Catholic schools.
    Frankly I don't care if Pelosi lives to be 100.But at this rate
    Our Country cannot survive as a Representative Republic with
    her infernal witchy hand gestures and smug as a bug in a rug
    plastic smirks.Consider Fidel Castro's reign of terror on Cuba.
    A Once wonderful and thriving Tourist/Gambling vacation spot.
     
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    Foolardi Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    One got played and one simply believed in the Magic of America's greatness.
    George Will was born to be a fussy RINO.A veritable milquetoast.
    If he ordered a martini he probably would crook his pinky in like Elitist fashion.
    It was Will who Invited Barack Obama to his Chevy Chase Home for
    discussion and meeting of liked minded little Washintonian Elites.
    Like Charles Krauthammer,William Kriistol and David Brooks.
    ALL fashionable writers but seldom ever strong on the basics.
    As if their flowery words can schmooze people into believing udderwise.
    Will Had Obama over to his Chevy Chase small mansion a few
    weeks before he was Inaugurated.Barack Obama left his temporary home
    at Hay-Adams Hotel a week before { Jan.13th } his Inauguration.
    Where butthead David Brooks eventually made famous his enthrall
    over the crease of Obama's pants.At least that was Before his
    Paper of Record { N.Y.Times } became the Rat paper of record for
    budding Rat Journalism.And the Ratty editing.
     
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    the hey adams hotel is where the uppity of the uppity stay
     
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