That statue in England that ended up in the bay?

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  1. Reasonablerob

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    Ah, you're changing the terms?
     
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    no. im refining your search, since white jewish europeans are not biblical israelites. good luck searching..
     
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    All the children of Israel.
     
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    what about them..:roll:
     
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    Next time be specific. Saying Jews were persecuted because of their banking activities is just an excuse, they were persecuted for being different, a bunch of peasants being the victim of a pogrom were not international financiers.
     
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    its not an excuse, its the common consensus since they did have control over the banks from long before any pogroms began. if you have evidence that suggests otherwise go ahead.
     
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    Give me a source, this is baloney, it's like saying racism against African Americans is prompted by envy of their athletic prowess or anti-Mason prejudice by their secrecy. Anti Jewish bigotry is a failing of those who bear it, not those who suffer it
     
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    nothing wrong with saying black ppl are arguably better athletes lmao. the italian merchant bankers of the 14th and 15th centuries had many dealings with jewish bankers. for such a tiny minority they sure did work their way up the financial power structure. thats not prejudice to state such since its been researched by myself, go look for yourself, its no big deal.

    https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/the-jews-and-the-medici
     
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    Interestingly somebody replaced the statue of Colston with one of Jimmy Saville, that was removed within an hour, Bristolian wit for you!
     
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    It is not prejudiced to say so, absolutely, it is prejudiced to infer that racial and religious prejudice against the jewish people is somehow justifed by financial success?
     
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    jewish is not a race.
     
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    how?

    considering anybody can convert to judaism and become jewish it clearly isnt a race.

    do these look the same race to you?

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    Glad to see the "White Silence is Violence" banner in London was ordered to be removed by Met Police...

    I hope they tear down the bluecoats statues next as I self identfy as a Smurf...
     
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    Yes but there is both religion and ethnicity, read the article.
     
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    That is interesting. They also tried something similar with a woman who was wearing a tshirt saying things about Boris that they did not like but she won that she had the right to express her position - asking her to cover it up was unlawful.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...oman-told-cover-up-anti-boris-johnson-t-shirt
     
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    Using threatening, abusive, or insulting language is a criminal offence under Section 5 of the Public Order Act, even if it's printed on a T-shirt in England and Wales so I dont understand why she was not just charged with a S5 public order offence?
     
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    You could arrest just about anyone then depending on what you believed to be abusive. Looks like the UK has zero free speech.

    Now the other one.
    Now the reality is that Silence in situations often could be said to be violence because it is condoning it. I know an Israeli Group 'Breaking the Silence' spoke about how if people remained silent they were contributing to the problem and there has to be a lot said for the truth of that so I do not see there why they would ban it. Then you get White violence. If we in the UK are now calling ourselves 'white' then that is new and imported from the US in particular the hating Muslim mob. This does not sound like them they would be encouraging the violence. It could be that the police believed that this would stir up racial hatred though not knowing who put it up it is impossible to say if that had anything to do with their motivation and it very well might not. It does speak of things in a racial tone though and the police possibly were concerned it would stir up the white nationalis which thankfully there are not too many of.

    Perhaps this is where the White Silence equals violence comes from.
     
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    I know courts here don't generally recognise Police Officers as victims under S5 public offence laws, so maybe thats why.. It would need a member of the general public to complain about the t-shirt...

    The Harry Miller v college of policing court case, the judges said we do have freedom of speach here in UK, even if it does offend some other person..

    https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/02/miller-v-college-of-police-judgment.pdf

    This categorizing people on colour business is just stupid as black and white are not even colours, they are shades.. I am not going to be silent, but I'm sure as hell not going to march to the beat of a marxist, lefist drum either... I think these kind of activists who put up these banners genuinely believe in their cause. But they have just become so swept up in identity politics that they fail to see how racist their own actions have become and they are white people suposedly fighting racism..
     
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    yes? yes they look the same race?
     
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    No, the reason she said was because she was of a sufficient class that they did not want to mess with her. Every single person in the land should be in jail if what you say is true because there is noone who has never abused someone.

    Rediculous. There are plenty of things I find offensive. Lets take up the courts time with them and with all the things that everyone else finds offensive and just leave the criminals to get on with things especially if a person's clothes suggest something someone else does not like.

    Awe poor dear. This is a very basic mistake some people have who are not educated on the matter. Of course for others it is covert racism.

    https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/group/white-lives-matter

    so just so that we know what the White Lives matter is about. Of course all lives matter. BLM is reminding people that black lives matter as much as white.

    Nope your wrong. I showed you where the poster you complained about may have come from. You would appear to want to ban people wanting to stop that.
     
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    The peole who put up the banner where soy drenched, leftist, antifa marxists..


    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...of-white-silence-is-violence-banner-in-london
     
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    Because you can convert to Judaism but also to be born a Jew. It's an ethnicity as well as a religion.
     
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    so these are the same ethnicity in your opinion?

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