The 1950s are coming back

The science has said no such thing.

The science says insecure men have been made unhappy by the rise of women influence.

 

I remember Amos 'n Andy.

 

Actually, the science says men have become happier and women unhappier:

https://www.nytimes.com/2009/09/20/opinion/20dowd.html

Unless you can link to something which says otherwise I am going to have to write off your comment as standard leftwing ************.

 

Give me a link to your science. Not an opinion piece.

 

I know a lot of successful, hard working professional woman who would justifiably slap your face for saying that.

 

No, you’re just distorting the suggestion of one study into a broad generalization. One that appears to suit some stereotype you’ve got in your head.

 

As if that would make any difference!

But here goes:

http://www.gss.norc.org

Ms. Dowd is, of course, a well known feminist columnist, so you can hardly accuse her of bias.

Here's another article reviewing the literature:

https://www.nytimes.com/2007/09/26/business/26leonhardt.html

 

I am not distorting anything. Perhaps you think Ms. Dowd is doing the distortion. I am just reporting that a prominent feminist columnist believes women are unhappier because of feminism. Perhaps is suits some stereotype in her head.

Or perhaps it is simply true. That would make the stereotype in your head explode.

But I do welcome your research findings which claims women are happier. Then we can have a discussion instead of your misdirected ad homs.

 

Your article implies the opposite for most men and women. Small subsets are outliers that are exceptions to the rule. The distortion of the argument is not worthy by the right.

Women have no desire to return to the 1950s.

 

TomFitz just sweeps opposition argument away easily.

 

Please cite your sources for that claim.

 

Please cite your sources that women want to go back to the norms of the 1950s.

 

Since we are opining here without evidence, peruse the following.

Do young women really crave the 1950s? | Viv Groskop | Opinion ...

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/.../do-young-women-really-crave-1950s
Apr 8, 2017 - The temptation to return to a past of clearly defined gender roles must be resisted. ... men for a while (“Do Millennial Men Want Stay-At-Home Wives?”). ... Excuse me while I go and find a 1950scardigan to put on because I am ...
Women in the 1950s (article) | 1950s America | Khan Academy

https://www.khanacademy.org › ... › The postwar era (1945-1980) › 1950s AmericLearn about the myths and realities of women's lives during the 1950s. ... and the Cold War ideal of domesticity, but the reality of women's lives did not always ... who had joined the workforce during the war were displaced by returning soldiers. ... I Love Lucy both confirmed and undermined 1950s gender norms for white ...
What Our Mothers Didn't Tell Us - The New York Times

www.nytimes.com/books/first/c/crittenden-mothers.htmlIf the truth about women can be found in the magazines they buy, then the answer ... men, than the most depressed, Lithium-popping, suburban reader of the 1950s. .... Without feminism, they feared, we were in danger of "going back" -- back to what, .... At the same time, many of us will want to pursue interests outside of our ...

Half Of Americans Want To Take The Country Back To The 1950s ...

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/americans-1950s-poll_n_580fcf0be4b08582f88c9575
Oct 25, 2016 - Half Of Americans Want To Take The Country Back To The 1950s ... Americans are close to evenly split on whether the U.S. has gotten better or worse in the past 60 years, according to a new ... BEFORE YOU GO ... After Racist Tweets, Trump Made Another Ugly Attack On Democratic Women Of Color.
"Women Without Men": The Pros and Cons of a "Man-Free Life"

historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6271/
Writing about gender roles of the 1950s, Betty Friedan once defined the “suburban ... But 21,327,000 others are women without men: women who have never ... that every woman wants to be married, a great many do not want marriage. ... I feel strange and alien here; I think I'll go home and find an American husband again.
Missing: back ‎| Must include: back
Postwar Gender Roles and Women in American Politics | US House of ...

https://history.house.gov/Exhibitions-and-Publications/WIC/Historical.../Identity/
Couples wed early (in the late 1950s, the average age of American women at ... A woman enters into a man's world of politics, into back-fighting and grubbing. ... Also, she can't go to the other extreme: belligerent, coarse, nasty. ... be willing to have her every motive challenged, her every move criticized,” and added that she ...

 

Equality is not synonymous with happiness. Simply because a woman can hold the same position as a man, does not mean anything if they are doing such simply to demonstrate equality, rather than because it is something they truly wish to do.

 

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Thanks for mansplaining.....LOL. Sounds like you’re the one filled with unhappiness. Women are lucky..we have more options that we didn’t have in the past. We can be professionals or we can be homemakers. Men are unhappy because they are judged by their net worth

 

lol..The same science that says climate change is a hoax. I’m sure you found it on the right wing site. Yes women are so unhappy because they are getting equal rights. There were people that said women weren’t happy when they got the vote also. Chances are the studies are done by insecure man
For one thing more women are unhappy in marriages and that’s why many are opting not to marry. You can blame feminism all you want but women have all the options

 

Who said equality is synonymous with happiness? You just created a strawman and took off with it. Women don’t hold jobs simply to demonstrate equality.Why do you think the medical schools are half women ? because they just want to demonstrate equality or is it perhaps that they now have options they didn’t have in the past?

 

Never saw newscasters with the exception of Barbara Walters. They were always men .women would do the ads for refrigerators etc.or the weather. Now young people see men and women in this medium and don’t even think about..and it didn’t happen in a vacuum

 

What can I say?science says men with little hands believe this

 

The Original Post may be essentially correct. Ideology does not change biology.
However, the "women's revolution" that occurred after WWII is irreversible, just like the colonial revolution.
What we may see is new ways to accommodate to the drive to empower women economically, while allowing those who wish it, to fulfill their role as mothers.
The OP mentioned government payments to women who stay home to raise their children -- this is quite common in European countries, but runs directly counter to free-market fundamentalism.

What's needed is some creative thinking that will allow women to pursue their careers -- or at least not bring them to a full stop -- while also engaging in child-rearing: creches on company property, for example.

 

Or encourage men to be homemakers?

 

First, who may or may not be known on the part of yourself does nothing to change the factual nature of the analysis of the matter.

Second, assault and battery is never justified on the basis of being insulted.

Third, of all the qualities mentioned by yourself in the above statement, one cannot help but notice that there is no mention of their being happy. There is no indication that the pursuit of equality has done anything with regard to their state of happiness.

If their career decisions were motivated, not out of a desire on their part, but rather a sense of obligation and loyalty to their gender to do such, none of their success matters. These individuals become nothing more than examples for others to be measured against, thus rendering them the equivalent of a yardstick.

 

Not a right wing site. Two articles from the NYT.

 

A very good question. Why indeed? Why are medical schools half female? Is the answer possessed on the part of yourself to demonstrate conclusively, beyond reasonable doubt, that it is because of something they truly wish to do, rather than it being due to any other reason?

 

You’re strawman argument is silly. Let me guess you’re a man and trying to mansplain to women why they go to work and and pursue careers never offered to them in the past. Yes all those doctors and lawyers and CEO women are only doing it out of loyalty to the gender. Do you realize how silly that sounds? But the converse is actually true. Men are judged by how much money they make this is called patriarchal reversal so stop projecting how do you think I want to women women can choose to be homemakers… But men are it respected for it