The 9/11 Commission Scam Exposed in all its Glory

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  1. usda_select

    usda_select Active Member Past Donor

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    It’s Thursday and there are still zero quotes from the 9/11 Commission Report listing any major inaccuracies.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    They have posted many statements by many people who criticize the report.

    Criticism is perfectly normal and acceptable for anything and anyone including a government report. However CRITICISM is somewhat ambiguous and flexible and it can mean many different things.

    Bobo seems to think that any criticism by anyone who was connected to the commission is proof of lies and falsehoods. It seems many of them were criticizing such thing as not having a clear picture of the money trail and so on. But no one connected to the commission has claimed it was all lies or mostly lies or deliberately lied in any way. None of them have claimed it was a coverup or act of fiction or even that it was a theory.

    Yes there are details which have received criticism and which some are not 100% satisfied with but once again this is not evidence of any twoofers claim of a coverup or conspiracies.

    The conclusions of the report are still sound and backed by evidence and nothing any twoofer has said can refute them.

    Bobo STILL has yet to quote one innacuracy and no one has presented any evidence to challenge the report
     
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    The whole report is inaccurate.....end of story....
    BTW where were all the "pancaked" floors of the towers? They disappear like magic....also the "aircraft" , luggage, bodies....poof...all disappear by magic.....so you still believe in the toothfairy obviously nazi...wow what a kid.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    Just goes to show they even lie about what day it is, any kind of silly nonsense to divert the discussion.
     
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    Bob0627 Well-Known Member

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    The term "inaccurate" would give it much more credit than it deserves, the report is a massive criminal fraud and all those on the 9/11 Commission know it is. Their books and quotes reveal that they know in no uncertain terms. Max Cleland made the entire world fully aware of the SCAM when he resigned, well before the 9/11 Commission Report was published.
     
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    "They" signed off on the Warren Commission Report too, but that does not make it true and accurate.

    Most government commissions are meant only to protect the guilty parties and fool the public. Some members of 'the public' are more easily fooled than others.
     
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    True.

    The evidence supports both reports.

    No evidence supports the zany claim that they were meant to protect the guilty
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Some evidence of this fraud would be nice
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    Ok so when did the 911 attacks take place.

    The report tells us they happened on september 11.

    If the whole thing is inaccurate you explain what date the attacks happened on?
     
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    And some people play right into the hands of Osama Bin Laden and al Qaeda.
     
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    Exactly. The US government claims they did 9/11 because they hated our freedom. So what did they do? Just about everything since 9/11 to try to destroy our freedom. Bin Laden and Al Qaeda would be proud of the US government's help in doing what they could never do (if that fairy tale were true).
     
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    More of the same but still no evidence of a coverup or inside job.
     
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    It also doesn't mean they endorsed the findings, failed logic at its finest. The disclaimer within the 9/11 Commission Report and the subsequent books and quotes from the 9/11 Commission members themselves contradict this silly claim.
     
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    The Saudis revoked OBL's citizenship and labeled AQ as a terrorist organization in 1994. OBL was looking for vengeance against the US and the Saudis.
     
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    Yes actually it DOES mean they endorsed the findings that is what signing off on it means
     
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    Most of the 9/11 Commission Report relied on 3rd party relayed torture testimony. All of it would be inadmissible in any legitimate court anywhere in the US. It doesn't even rise to the level of hearsay evidence. That means all claims made in the 9/11 Commission Report are null and void in accordance with the Constitution and true American system of justice.
     
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    You come up with this silliness because you don't like what I posted? I started this thread, which is of course all about the 9/11 Commission and their report and quoted and pointed to many portions of the report. It would be some trick to do that without having read any of it, don't you think? Or do you? Try sticking to the point if you can and quit making it about me, falsely at that, if you can that is. Perhaps you're taking lessons from the usual suspects who are intent on derailing the topic of discussion.

    Anyway back to the point. Everything I posted that you responded to with this silliness is 100% fact. That most of the report relies on 3rd party relayed torture testimony comes from Zelikow, the other members of the 9/11 Commission and the report itself (read through the thread, it's all there). That it's inadmissible in any legitimate court in the US comes from the Constitution, the history of the US justice system and anyone who knows anything about US law. Here's just one sample;

    http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/evidence-obtained-through-torture.html
     
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    Ask him.

    He will babble on about being one of the few courageous enough to question government and that everyone else is a shill or a lemming.
     
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    You have never been able to quote any part of the report which is false and show evidence that it is a lie.

    You have been asked to do so about a hundred times.

    No it would not be a trick to mine conspiracy theory websites to find obscure claims which vaguely references something about the report without quoting it which is all you have really done

    If you had read it and claim it is a lie you would be able to specifically cite a passage which is a lie and show evidence that it is a lie.

    You have never done so.

    Nothing you have said is accurate or correct you cannot and have not and will not provide any evidence
     
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    The following is a list of documented/irrefutable facts/issues pertaining to the 9/11 Commission and the 9/11 Commission Report. Note this is just my personal summary and it's far from all the facts that clearly expose it as a SCAM. Others may want to add to this list (or correct if incorrect). Most of it has already been posted in this thread in greater detail.

    1. The Bush administration is directly responsible for the wholesale destruction of 9/11 evidence, in violation of federal and local law, thus hampering/corrupting any investigation.
    2. The Bush administration did not want to investigate 9/11, in fact they (or more specifically Cheney) asked Sen. Tom Daschle not to investigate 9/11 on several occasions.
    3. The Bush administration reluctantly yielded to investigating 9/11 due to pressure from the 9/11 families, specifically the Jersey Girls but wanted the investigation to only focus on intelligence failures.
    4. The Bush administration appointed Henry Kissinger as the chairman of the 9/11 Commission who was subsequently forced to resign due to conflicts of interest.
    5. The Bush administration stocked the 9/11 Commission with cronies, especially Philip Zelikow.
    6. All members of the 9/11 Commission had conflicts of interest and were covering for someone.
    7. The 9/11 Commission cut a deal with the Bush administration essentially allowing them to dictate who on the 9/11 Commission could see what evidence and also limited the evidence the 9/11 Commission had access to.
    8. According to the 9/11 Commission, there are 570 cubic feet of textual records, a large percentage of it classified, presumably inaccessible to the 9/11 Commission itself (see #7).
    9. Sen. Max Cleland resigned as a result of #7, labeling the 9/11 investigation a scam and obstruction.
    10. The 9/11 families or more specifically the Family Steering Committee sent over 400 questions to the 9/11 Commission and the vast majority of the questions were either unanswered or insufficiently answered.
    11. Philip Zelikow created an outline of the 9/11 Commission Report prior to the first meeting of the 9/11 Commission.
    12. Philip Zelikow admitted that most if not all of the 9/11 Commission Report relied on 3rd party relayed torture testimony.
    13. The source of over 25% of the Commission Report's footnotes is 3rd party relayed torture testimony.
    14. The 9/11 Commission were lied to by the CIA who told them they gave them everything they asked for but withheld torture tapes which they never revealed their existence to the 9/11 Commission.
    15. The torture tapes were deliberately destroyed by the CIA despite a federal court order to preserve them.
    16. The Senate Intelligence Committee on Torture report claims that the CIA's torture methods yielded NO USEFUL INTELLIGENCE (see #12 and #13).
    17. The FBI lied to the 9/11 Commission (and Congress) when they told them they gave them everything. They were discovered a decade later to be holding over 80,000 pages of documents from their PENTBBOM "investigation" that they never revealed existed.
    18. NORAD and other key Pentagon officials told the 9/11 Commission different stories that were in conflict with each other or outright lies.
    19. The 9/11 Commission agreed to interview Bush and Cheney together unsworn and unrecorded.
    20. There is no evidence that the 9/11 Commission conducted any criminal/scientific/forensic investigation in accordance with universally accepted standards appropriate for such an investigation. Especially within the vast scope required by a major historical event such as 9/11. Much of the contents of the 9/11 Commission Report is unvetted and/or unsupported by legitimate evidence (any evidence obtained via the use of torture is illegitimate/unreliable - see #16).
    21. The 9/11 Commission claimed in their report that "their aim has not been to assign individual blame", thus making a mockery of the "investigation".
    22. Eyewitnesses who were to testify to the 9/11 Commission were coached by Soviet style government "minders" prior to their testimonies, thus tampering with, biasing and corrupting the "investigation".
    23. Many potential crucial eyewitnesses were never interviewed by the 9/11 Commission. Potential whistleblowers were not granted immunity and therefore many did not testify as a result.
    24. Some key eyewitness testimonies were excluded from the 9/11 Commission Report.
    25. The 9/11 Commission failed to investigate key events and issues, such as the destruction of WTC7 (unmentioned) and the financing of 9/11, deeming it of "little practical significance" (in direct contradiction to all criminal investigation standards).
    26. The 9/11 Commission co-chairs admitted they were set up to fail, starved of funds, denied access to the truth, misled by senior officials in the Pentagon and the FAA, did not examine key evidence, claimed the report was incomplete and flawed and that many questions remain unanswered.
    27. Philip Zelikow had complete control over the final edit of the 9/11 Commission Report and was responsible for keeping the classified 28 pages from the 9/11 Commission. Zelikow fired an aide who wanted to bring the 28 pages to the attention of the 9/11 Commission.
    28. The published version of the 9/11 Commission Report in general is similar to the official 9/11 conspiracy theory disseminated as fact by the Bush administration prior to the establishment of the 9/11 Commission.
    29. The 9/11 Commission Report was severely criticized by many, especially the Jersey Girls, who were responsible for pressuring the Bush administration for an investigation. "we knew it was a farce, we wanted their words, their lies down on paper" - Patty Casazza.

    The above is just a sampling, please add to or correct any of the above (if incorrect). This post will serve as bullet point reference to the 9/11 Commission SCAM.
     
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    So did you or did you not read the Commission Report?
     
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    Did you? it's a great piece of fiction isn't it?
     
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    I wouldn't quite characterize it as a "great piece of fiction". What it really is is a dangerous piece of propaganda being peddled as fact by the most lethal terrorists on the planet, the criminals masquerading as the US government. It's a psychological weapon used to try to get ignorant and gullible fools to support endless genocide for the benefit of the military industrial complex.
     
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    sounds like you're more upset about Bin Laden being a Saudi and most of the hijackers being Saudi, then you are about the almost 3,000 people killed on 9-11
     
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    Then you completely misunderstand.
     

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