The American Empire Is Coming To An End

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  1. Zorro

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    As those they displaced did to the Clovis People that were here when they arrived, such is human history, though some haters want to single Americans out for special, because they Americans.

    Would you agree that it would be irrational for voters to select representatives that hate them, rather than representatives that value them and consider representing a Free People to be a rare honor?

    Voters are pretty clear which Party Represents Freedom, Liberty, and the ability to pursue your own dreams rather than those of a crazed left-wing master-planner.

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    Freedom Babes for Liberty!
     
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  2. Moolk

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    False, BLM riots are inspired by democrats and their fake narratives of racism being far more prevelent than it is. Racism is a nonissue in America, yet what little exists is overwhelmingly targeting white people, not coming from them. Its easy to prove you wrong because we have a recent example, BLM riots regardless of incident involving blacks, including some where they arent involved at all, such as the KR case. Fact is, BLM is a genuine terrorist organization whoms entire premise is based on falsehoods, and is a Dem organization. An organization who spreads racism, and doesn't combat it.

    And dems do not condemn them, they encourage them, they bail them out of jail, etc.

    BLM started well before Trump, blaming Trump has no basis in reality. Its a fallacy, TDS, and simply based in hatred itself, hate of a man who has outperformed Obama and brandon together as president.

    Everything you have posted has been easily refuted.

    Reality is, violence is a left wing tool and one that is biting them in the butt in the long run though it did get some short term victories.

    Dems inspire hate and violence, and then support it as long as its in the direction they want.
     
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    Let's agree to disagree.

    See ya around the forum. Maybe we can have another good conversation (as this one was) about a different topic.
     
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    What's that in her right hand? It looks like a stuffed doll.

    Whatever, she can pull my trigger whenever she pleases, but oh, that mean look.

    I wonder what I did with my vitamins and energy drinks?

    Oh yea, I'll have to get new ones. The old ones likely expired decades ago.
     
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  5. Zorro

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    Interesting how you stopped your tracking with the advent of the Orange Miracle, the first president of the modern era not to start a new military conflict.
     
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    Toggle Almendro Well-Known Member

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    Have you ever considered the possibility that Russia might be the ones who are lying?
     
  7. Patricio Da Silva

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    Oh yeah, 'America The Beautiful', in song only:

    http://guantanamodiary.com/
     
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    Yeah, even a broken clock is correct a couple of times.
    But his first week in office he okayed an op that resulted in the death of a soldier.
    His withdrawal of Syria burned our bridge to the kurds, and now they are siding with Russia who is expanding their influence in hte region. Trump set up the Afghanistan deal with the Taliban, undermining the gov, which is why the 300,000 man Afghan Army who, though the backing of the gov, might not have laid down their arms resulting in the chaos, and all the while not actually withdrawing complete, kicking the can to Biden, because he knew it was going to be a PR nightmare, but Biden had the courage to do it anyway, under the terms set by Trump with the taliban.

    Not starting a war is good, but the left hand's one good deed can't make up for the plethora of evil the right hand does.
     
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    Unfortunately for America, delusional wishful thinking is legal.

    Yeah, right. Go pester someone else.

    The truth has kicked your butt.

     
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    Just remember, 'Republic' is broad term, and, by itself, doesn't indicate a liberal democracy or any democracy.

    Such as Union of Soviet Socialist Republics

    and today, Russia has many republics, none of whom referred to the Federalist papers when they formed.

    Republic of Adygea
    Altai Republic
    Republic of Bashkortostan
    Republic of Buryatia
    Chechen Republic
    Chuvash Republic
    Republic of Crimea
    Republic of Dagestan
    Republic of Ingushetia
    Kabardino-Balkar Republic
    Republic of Kalmykia
    Karachay-Cherkess Republic
    Republic of Karelia
    Republic of Khakassia
    Komi Republic
    Mari El Republic
    Republic of Mordovia
    Republic of North Ossetia–Alania
    Sakha Republic
    Republic of Tatarstan
    Tuva Republic
    Udmurt Republic

    And then there are the Islamic Republics of Iran, Mauritania and Pakistan, again, none of whom cared one iota about our founding father's romanticized notions of what a Republic is, or is not.

    All of this confirms my assertion that a 'Republic" is nothing more, nor less, than a government of appointed or elected leaders.

    If you want to know what kind of republic the republic is, it MUST be defined by decree, from thereon, and even then, the reality of that republic might still be a de facto plutocracy/dictatorship rather than a true democracy ( Russia, case in point ) or the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, hardly the bastion of democracy, either.


    How can you possibly disagree with me when I put forth the hard inescapable facts in front of you? I am curious
     
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    OK
     
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    Looks like you ripped off that information from here, without attribution. https://www.greynun.org/gn2/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/US-Involvement-in-War.pdf
     
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    Man, that's a lot to rip off from a source without attribution. The source you stole it from is here: https://www.greynun.org/gn2/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/US-Involvement-in-War.pdf

    And you would presume to lecture others on the sources they properly post and list, when you just steal from yours? Weird!
     
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    Everything I said there is accurate, those who think its wrong are portraying such delusional wishful thinking. Though unlike authoritarian democrats, I wouldn't silenced those who display it, I confront them. As is the case here.

    Ill do whatever I want.

    The truth is on my side, the propaganda you have been fed isn't working on Americans nearly as much anymore. People are waking up, this is a good thing.
     
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  15. Patricio Da Silva

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    Funny thing, you make claims without proving or backing your claims up.

    Could it possibly be that you cannot back them up because there is no truth to them?

    Occam's razor says yes.

    Unless, of course, you can.

    So? Time to put up, Moolk, otherwise you are all hat and no cattle,
     
  16. Moolk

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    I cited specifics, your inability to keep up with the current events is not my fault. Everything I said is objectively correct. It is not my job to make you be an informed individual, it is yours.

    regardless, no amount of deflection will remove the fact I am correct.
     
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    That's not how it works, Moolk.

    You obviously have no clue about how to frame an argument.

    Saying you are correct doesn't prove you are correct, it proves nothing, and it most certainly doesn't put the onus your opponent to verify your claims.

    Just because he doesn't verify your claims, that doesn't equal 'uninformed citizen'.

    If fact, it may very well be true that he is disagreeing with you because he, and not you, is the informed citizen.

    NO, you make a claim, the onus is on you to back it up, you can't expect others to do your work for you.
     
  18. Moolk

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    That’s exactly how it works, I don’t care if you choose to be wrong and disagree that is how it works.

    You don’t get to make the rules, it is your job to be informed not mine to make you be. You are in a politics forum, it’s your personal responsibility to do your own research, not mine to do it for you.

    I am objectively correct on everything we have discussed this far and the facts are on my side. If you choose to be hyper emotional and ignore this truth then that is on you and not at all my fault.
     
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  19. Moolk

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    It’s not my job to do the research for you. It is on you to be informed, not me to make you informed. I am objectively correct on everything we have discussed so far. You can disagree and be wrong but that is not my fault.
     
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    Incompetent argument; vacuous declarations are not an argument.

    So, your argument is 'I am correct' and you think it's other's responsibility to google why you are right?

    That's insane.

    HEY MOOLK, THIS IS A DEBATE FORUM.

    Look up the word 'debate'
     
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    delete
     
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    I am objectively correct, nothing about my argument is incompetent that is simply a baseless accussation.

    This is a debate forum and it is your job to do your own research and be informed. It is not my job to do it for you and I certainly will not.

    I expect people here to do their own research.
     
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    So what is the 'right' lesson of Pearl Harbor:
     
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    If China has orbiting hypersonic missiles, it would seem to me that our Carrier fleet is endangered anywhere in the world, even in dry dock.

    Could China launch a sneak attack where we wake up with every Carrier on fire?
     
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    BLM riots are about looting and setting things on fire. I'm going to presume you've seen the pics, so why the erroneous claim?
     
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