The American gun mind

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Nonnie, Aug 10, 2019.

  1. wombat

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    Ha! You guys call anyone anti gun "lefties" . Some simply see mass public assassinations as insanity prevented in most cases by the removal of rapid fire guns.
     
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    Zero. See the American hero in boys must be John Wayne. Inground culture of owning a gun is not conceived here. Taking a gun away from you guys must be like removing a lung. You dont see that fanaticism anywhere else in the world. There are other forms of entertainment or hunting challenges.
    Ive used s&w pistols, semi auto SLR and shotty. They arent challenging to use. And it aint no sport.
     
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    You need to be a tough guy to hunt?
     
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    Ah, confiscation. Jackboots are like that, yes they are!
     
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    None of which changes the fact that there is no legitimate justification for ignoring laws that exist, simply because it is possible for them to one day be changed to something else.
     
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    Xenamnes Banned

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    Hunting has absolutely nothing to do with being "tough" as some choose to believe. It is not about exercising masculinity through the killing of others.
     
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    Then there is simply no point in the united states even bothering to try.

    If the only acceptable number of mass shootings per year is zero, then such means the only achievable outcome is nothing but failure, as there will always be mass shootings. No matter what level of firearm-related restrictions the united states may attempt, it will always have more mass shootings than every other nation it will be held up to in comparison, meaning failure is the only outcome that will ever be had. No matter how much effort is invested, no matter how many finite resources are invested, the outcome will always be failure, and will always be considered as unacceptable.

    When failure is the only outcome that can be achieved, there is simply no point in trying.

    The line separating what is and is not a recognized sport is becoming more and more blurred by the day.
     
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    That would be because we see members of the UK government calling for tracking devices be attached to knives.
     
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    Meanwhile in the UK people are being visited by the Wrong Think police for not using the word "asian" and saying other unacceptable things.
     
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    The 2a is not about hunting or about sport.
    That's a nice strawman argument you've got there though
     
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    It absolutely can. Have Congress bring it to the table and get 38 states to ratify it and it will change.
     
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    Nightmare515 Ragin' Cajun Staff Member Past Donor

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    The UK arrested a dude last year for teaching his Pug dog how to raise it's paw and Heil Hitler lol.

    Sorry but no, I don't want to adopt any "middle ground" policies in regards to any of our rights from nations who claim to have the same basic rights as we do yet do ridiculous stuff like that.

    We don't need to emulate the UK as the "proper" way to establish "rights".
     
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    ever it takes, but if the people demand it doesn't change i.e. politicians get worried about themselves getting a bullet, it will confirm that USA is a gun country number 1. Those in fear move to Australia.

    I mean when the statistics are 120 guns for every 100 citizens, more mass shootings than days of the year....and that's generally over 4 people for a mass shooting to be one....there is a huge problem. But the biggest problem is- if over night mass shootings double or tripled, gun lovers would still hold onto their teddy bears and cry "the lefties are after my guns...the 2nd amendment is permanent...its for my safety....yarda yarda yarda…"
     
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    Doesn't matter the rhetoric. We are a nation of laws, we are a nation governed by Constitutional Law. Within the Constitution lies a clearly defined process by which to change the Constitution itself if we wish to do so. It's not easy by any means and it was purposefully designed to not be easy. The Constitution contains our fundamental rights as Americans and the Laws upon which our nation was founded. If we as a nation wish to change that in any way, shape, or form, then we must go through the process designed to ensure that the overwhelming majority of the entire nation agrees to do it.

    We are a very diverse nation and in all reality if we weren't united under one flag then we would look a lot like Europe with various different little counties over here with their own cultures and ideologies. And many states within those (counties as of now) most likely. If you want to change our Constitution then you have to get the majority of all of these varying ideologies to agree that it's a good idea.

    That is the legal process, yes it's extremely difficult and it's a huge road block directly in the way of what many wish we could do here. But that's how we operate. We don't allow even vocal loud majorities to strong arm our Constitution. You can go through the entire amendment process and if Alabama, Alaska, Georgia, etc and states like those don't agree to ratify it then it doesn't change.

    The genius of our Founding Fathers and the system they designed presents itself in times like this.
     
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    You assume such a thing will not have impact in your country or on you? Really?
     
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    OMG, did you evoke Dr Phil? LMFAO...:omfg::rolleyes:
     
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    I dont care...prove otherwise
     
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    What I do know is one lunatic today in Sydney, has gone on a rampage. Possibly one dead, one injured

    The assailant went berserk and was subdued by a hero with a vhair that pinned him down. Another mam with a milk crate helped, both heroes.

    Dead heroes if in USA along with many others.

    You guys cant argue that that senario is better for everyone in your country as you'd have a gun fight for many obvious reasons.

    This is huge news here. Daily hourly news in usa.

    https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6072135745001
     
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    Prove what he said is true, first. If you had much idea about the USA, you would be ashamed to reference him. He is a charlatan and a huckster quack who exist on sensationalism and is only on TV because Oprah made him.

    He is a joke that rational people dont waste time on.
     
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    LOL, how did gun bans slide down that slope, in Oz. Perfect example.
     
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    'High profile' is anything the media shines a light on. They're keeping poor minority area shootings in the dark and highlighting rich white area shootings. People are responding to what they're being exposed to. That they're only being exposed to a fringe occurance instead of the norm should indicate to a critical thinker that a biased agenda is at play...
     
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    sorry it took so long to reply,

    History does not long entrust the care of Freedom to the Weak or Timid ~ Dwight D. Eisenhower.
     
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    Translation: These crazy people are trying to kill us, please take our guns away. We'll use milk cartons to defend ourselves.

    Good luck when there's 50 of them with knives.
     
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    Speaking of struggling, please suggest what you believe would prevent murder.
     
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    That just proved Nonnies point of extreme views on things. Gun control with the ambition of preventing "some" murders not all. Human preservation is a human need. Of the 250+ mass murders this year (why arent you crying?) If there was 50-100 less (the saving of about 300 victims) that would be good wouldnt it? But no one is suggesting murders, all are preventable are they? Let's be reasonable. ..can you be?
     

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