The anti-Obamacare propaganda hate machine has a melt down!

As the outpouring of hysteria and malicious stories mount from the Right, we have to wonder just how far is the insanity on their part going to go. From mythical "Death Panels" to a lascivious and demoniacal "Uncle Sam" springing up on a spread-legged young woman in a gynecological exam, there is NO slime pit too filthy for the Right to immerse themselves in.

In this latest hysterical story we have "pregnant women" OVER 65 on MEDICARE deprived of their "favorite maternity doctors"!!

There is simply no end to their irrationality! While Obamacare has many issues that can be improved, the level of completely irrational rhetoric prevents ANY productive or useful actions to make things better.

I am beginning to wonder if soon we will see repeat of the classic propaganda stories of "Obamacare thugs" dumping preemie babies out of incubators and stomping on them as we had in the run up to the first Iraq war defending Kuwait (a story that was made up by the daughter of the Kuwaiti ambassador to ensure the USA's outrage! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_(testimony)

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/...acare-is-hurting-many-elderly-pregnant-women/

 

I don't understand... how is this "anti obamacare hate machine has a meltdown" it should be lady from view says something rather stupid.

That aside lots of insurers trying to keep premiums low are restricting what doctors one can see. So what she talks about could happen... just probably not to medicare patients.

Read this:
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/14/business/la-fi-insure-doctor-networks-20130915
Ya stupid statement but a real possibility

 

"When older women go through pregnancy, they face the risk of birth defects for their infants. For example, numbers from the March of Dimes indicate a major increase in babies with Down's syndrome as women age. The risk at age 25 is 1 in 1,250. At age 35, it is 1 in 400. By the time women are 49, the rate is 1 in 10."

Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_6402163_older-women-pregnancy.html#ixzz2l3uO5BYV
http://www.ehow.com/about_6402163_older-women-pregnancy.html

If 65 year olds are using in vitro fertilization it can cost between $30, 000 to $80,000.
If they can afford to pay for IVF I would think they could afford any doctor or doctors they want.

http://ivfcostcalculator.com/

If it’s Focks News they’re willing to scream fire in a crowded theater to scare people into believing their propaganda.

 

RCP net Obama approval, -13.7%, a new low. And that's BEFORE Hassleback!

 

Raw Story kook blog, now there's a real reliable source.


Some folks will believe ANYTHING they read on the internet!

 

There really is an anti-Obamacare propaganda hate machine melt down. This post has nothing to do with the thread. It's just pure hatred.

 

Don't know why people are skipping my earlier post, perhaps I need to post it again...
http://articles.latimes.com/2013/sep/14/business/la-fi-insure-doctor-networks-20130915

Its already a known fact that many people in California are losing or will lose their current plans and then must buy insurance through the exchange. They could quite easily run into the problem of not being able to go to their current doctors if the new limited exchange coverage doesn't allow them.

So while Hasselbeck said something stupid, mainly trying to use the emotional pull on ones heart string just like Obama always does, it is a very real possibility that many Americans below 65 won't be able to keep their current doctors unless they want to pay out of pocket. So go ahead and point out her comment but don't think for a moment that it somehow is the meltdown of people criticizing this garbage legislation. And if you think all these stories about bad things Obamacare is causing is propaganda... just sad.

On a side note, Its nice that on the exchange sites it doesn't tell you what doctors and such are allowed in the insurance you have to buy as well.

 

Are you calling Fox News a "kook blog"?

The information is there for anyone to see for themselves. "Watch this video from Fox News’ Fox & Friends, broadcast Nov. 18, 2013."

 

It is interesting how so many posters happily omit the fact that the ONLY plans that may have limited networks are the ones on the low cost exchange, which is meant for for low income people who need subsidy or have pre-existing conditions.

People are welcome to call ANY insurance agent or insurance company they wish and purchase a plan that will let them go to anywhere they want, or pay for for the same premier hospitals or legendary doctors that their favorite movies stars go to.

This is like criticizing food stamps because boutique shopping stores in the wealthy neighborhoods don't take food stamps!

Going to your article, we see, for instance, that in Los Angeles one plan from ONE insurer has "In Los Angeles County, for instance, Health Net customers in the state exchange would be limited to 2,316 primary-care doctors and specialists".

Did Obama promise EVERYONE the ability to have a subsidized PREMIERE Insurance policy that would treat the lowest income at the Mayo Clinic and Hollywood "clinics to the stars"?

Geez.

 

Nobody said anything about going to the Mayo clinic or the hollywood clinic to the stars. You are twisting my argument as much as possible to avoid the truth, that is that many of the people losing their individual plans will likely end up in the exchanges. Why you ask... well because Obamacare is greatly increasing insurance rates:

Forbes

Now if one ends up in the exchanges they can very likely lose their doctors. As I stated earlier.

 

Why is it that the most important question is left out of these statics and numbers. Just what kind of policies were available for young men before Obama Care. Most of them were highly inadequate and inefficient. In other words if a buyer of this cheap form of insurance had a catastrophic illness or accident we would all wind up paying for his recovery and therapy. The real question is what would these same young buyers be paying for insurance coverage that met all the Obama Care standards to begin with. This is simply comparing apples with oranges. Unit my question is answered I'm skeptical of all this right wing blathering.

 

Domains By Proxy? Why would anyone need to do that?

 

I see how it is, lets move the goalpost, deflect and try to ignore the fact that the OP while rightfully pointing out a misstatement, didn't understand that it wasn't too far off the mark. As a young single man I am so relieved Obama came in and decided my insurance should cover pregnancy, mammograms and all sorts of coverage I never wanted, needed or cared about. Of course costs would be higher if I wanted insurance for that stuff, but I didn't and now I have to have it.

Thanks but no thanks, deflect, ignore, do whatever you have to do to get through the day. But at the end you are carrying water for garbage legislation because of some stupid loyalty to the democrat party, the president, or just straight up more government. I don't know which and I don't care... frankly its kind of a joke.

 

I hate this legislation because of personal reasons. My mother is high risk with preexisting conditions. She had perfectly good insurance through HIRSP in Wisconsin....

http://hirsp.org

It was originally setup by the Wisconsin state government and is its own non-profit now that helps people with preexisting conditions... or did. But because of Obamacare she is losing her insurance. In her 50's she was paying $330 a month through Hirsp and getting care irregardless of preexisting conditions, now she got a cancellation and has to buy insurance elsewhere. The lowest she has found is around $600 a month and doesn't include the drs. she has been going to for years.

I know its just anecdotal to you, but its real to me and frankly defending something that screws over people all over the country just because you support the party that passed it makes me want to vomit. How can one so blindly support a political party so vehemently. I just don't understand it... I guess all the bad news is just propaganda and people like my mom are lying about whats happening to them. Because politicians said it would be better!

Obamacare killed HIRSP, which helped the exact people this law was supposed to help.

Scott Walker is calling for WI state government to pass an extension that allows HIRSP to operate until March 31 2014. I hope it goes through so people like my mom can stay on their plans for a bit longer.

 

Flame bait much? ....the anti-Obamacare propaganda hate machine....

Hey Dave.....how's heathcare.gov coming along? How many folks have actually ENROLLED? And how's Obama's latest "fix" working out? Why do you suppose those "haters" at Bowie University are so disappointed with Obama?

Need more? I'll be happy to provide more. But, bottom line, Obamacare sucks and the liar's who pushed this POS through should all be run out on a rail.

 

...cleverly disguised as statistical fact.

 

You prove that every day with the anecdotal bull(*)(*)(*)(*) stories you post about the ACA

 

Catastrophic coverage covered catastrophic illness or accidents.........Hence the name of the coverage....... What it didn't cover was routine physician visits and prescriptions. If you had a qualifying event, it covered the same amount or even more than current plans with lower deductibles to boot. MOST healthy people don't need anything but a catastrophic plan unless you can't fork out a physician visit which in that case you should be going to a free clinic anyway....

ACA mandates coverage MOST people will never use.... to ensure health insurance corporations make a tidy profit on covering pre-existing conditions.

 

Its just as retarded as obama forcing men to pay for maternity care, they will never need.

but that didnt stop obama...

 

"Mythical death panels"? You mean "if you like your insurance you can keep it" is true? Who knows what the truth is at this point. We do know that obama heavily misled the country on obamacare so death panels wouldn't be a shocker.

 

I'm gonna have to call bull(*)(*)(*)(*). If you post a side by side comparison of both policies I will take you seriously. No one I've challenged to date who has claimed a 100% premium increase has been willing to do so, because the claims are bull(*)(*)(*)(*)

 

These ridiculous attempts to discredit arguments while avoiding the issue of the abiity to be looking at the ACTUAL information is so puerile!

Give it up! It iis the kind of argument that makes people look like a fool!

"Markmonitor" is a proxy privacy and anonymity security firm.
Why would anyone need to do that?

 

The TRUTH is the only real way to curb healthcare costs is to ration care like socialist healthcare countries do. You'll be waiting 3 months to see a specialist and administering your own congestive heart failure treatment within years!

But at least everyone will have access which WE ALL KNOW means quality! Look at the horrible quality of a Lamborghini because only a few can afford one......

/sarcasm off

 

Wow, the hate the truth machine hard at it again. I hate to the one to break it to you Dave, but Obamacare is the perfect example of what a failure government is when it comes to controlling healthcare. Obama lied and people died.

The real part of this failure is getting young people motivated to purchase health insurance, because they will not be motivated until they are sick, and the last thing a 25 year old wants is a car payment (insurance premium) without having a car. We can thank Obama for this absolute (*)(*)(*)(*)ed up mess.

 

No doubt. I really don't get the democrat's committment to obama even in the face of lies he told. These lies have cause alot of problems yet they continue to cover for his incompetence.