The Apollo 11 Astronauts are Bad Liars

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    Their behaviour is proof of nothing. It isn't even close to being circumstantial. What it is, is conspiracy lunacy playing amateur psychology. These are men who have had an ordeal in space, followed by seclusion in quarantine for 3 weeks. They have had very little exposure to that level of media attention. This is proof of your desperation.

    I would ask for your comments on the following video:-



    That is proof of your delusion and lifelong spamming campaign. A large portion of that is comprised of dead links and the whole thing has been savagely debunked thousands of times. You are unreachable as a so called truther.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.co.uk/
     
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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Do something amazing, withdraw a video! How exactly does his elbow make contact?

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    I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then declare it debunked, but I've never seen it actually debunked. The viewers can check it out and decide for themselves.
     
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    No you have seen it debunked endless times you simply lie and deny
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The moon's not space fgs - it's a hop, skip and a jump from this planet. Hardly inter-galactic? :rolleyes: Anyway don't start me on 'the universe and all that'!!
     
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    The viewers decided already. Just a few die-hards and obsessives continue this matter. The lunar landings have been proven beyond any shadow of doubt for those who possess critical thinking skills. Where are your comments on the video I showed and where is your withdrawal of the idiotic elbow video. This is why you are considered a joke by all those who decide to engage with you! You simply have no capacity to alter your stance on anything. You start a thread that has 10 years of tired and tedious claims simply as a means to spam your list again, then refuse to actually debate what you have posted.
     
  8. Scott

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    You can pretend all you want. You destroyed your credibility a long time ago with some of the lame things you've said.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-apollo-15-flag.438617/page-2#post-1065710796

    You're trying to sway those viewers who tuned in late and haven't seen any of that. Nobody who's seen some of those posts of yours is going to take you seriously.
     
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    You have that all backwards. It is you who lost credibility years ago with your first post.

    You have never produced any evidence and have consistently ignored all the real evidence which overwhelmingly destroys and crushes your claim.

    No one agrees with you and everyone who has seen your posts knows you are childish and making a fool of yourself it is YOU which no one takes seriously.
     
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    You absolute failure. There is nothing original about a single thing you type. Quite how you can still post this self reinforcing circular nonsense is beyond me. Effectively you are not qualified to judge anyone, your pathetic claim uses an even more nonsensical conspiracy about Chinese spacewalking in a swimming pool, then suggests everybody should agree with that insane conclusion.

    You are the internet equivalent of a mouse. Once again you failed to comment on the video and the distance between their elbows. Why is that?
     
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    Beta, you're a hoot! Do ya even watch your own videos? I got to thank you for the great belly-laugh I had when I watched your version of the Apollo 11 news conference. Scott, check out Beta's video at the 3:50 mark if you would like a good laugh! :)
     
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    I know, I know! the Apollo astronauts bugged Trump Tower, right???

    What lunacy.
     
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    I'm a hoot am I? Do you have issues with comprehension as well as being a failure as a debater? The point you refer the spammer to actually shows the clip in question where the supposed elbow was used. It completely debunks one of the bullcrap videos put forward by him. Or didn't you actually watch his videos, let alone read the flow of the thread!

    The rest of that video debunks the claim that they were lying based on cherry picked clips in the OP, it clearly shows a far more happier relaxed affair. But I would not expect you or the spammer to admit this, you're "truthers" after all!
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're really gonna feel stupid if he's right? I mean, fake news has been around for a long time, and fake space news is no exception.
     
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    No I am not going to feel stupid.

    he is not right he is wrong and that is a simple absolute fact.

    The subject is not open for debate the evidence is IRREFUTABLE that he is wrong
     
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    You should show the viewers what you're talking about.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...obviously-in-a-studio.362999/#post-1064028979

    I thought it was so obvious to the viewers that it didn't need mentioning but I'll address it anyway. Armstrong obviously doesn't touch Collins with his elbow. He stops short of touching him but he seems to want to elbow him to get him to shut up. He stops short because it would have been too obvious but he wanted Collins to get the message. He knew he was on camera. He didn't have to touch Collins for him to get the message.

    Tell us why this is irrefutably wrong.
    http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1145.0

    (reply #21)
    http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=993.15

    (reply #18 )
    http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1118.15
     
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    The viewers don't need your innacurate link. My reference was to your idiotic credibility test about China. Yet you spam your flag crap yet again.

    Are you really this stupid? For one they had 3 weeks in solitary confinement. They gave a question to a known astronomer! Then Collins gives a perfectly accurate answer about star visibility whilst photographing the solar corona as asked. His elbow is nowhere near Collins and had no necessity for anything even remotely incriminating.

    Why? You are like a broken gramophone record. No matter how often you are given answers to these idiotic claims you demonstrate no logic, no credibility, no understanding and a stubbornness that is the opposite of truthing. Just the first point about Collins jacket was covered in my video series. Only you find a problem with the weightless footage. YOU are the problem.
     
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    Because a garment moving differently on two different people is evidence of NOTHING and that is fact
     
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    This if pretty simplistic. If one garment is supposedly in zero-G and the other is in normal earth gravity and the movements are identical, that says something.
    http://www.apollohoax.net/forum/index.php?topic=1145.0
     
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    No it does not.

    It says nothing at all.

    It proves nothing whatsoever.

    You have never presented any evidence at all but you out right lie about the evidence proving you wrong
     
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    The movements aren't identical. They have similarities from similar forces. Collins jacket is being struck and pulled by the fixed attachment to his torso. The video above to all viewers shows weightlessness, billowing etc. Your continued insanity is noted.
     
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    Here are some comments from the comment section of the video.


     
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    I decided you're right! They never went to the moon. That'd be too obvious. They went to Venus.
     
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    The floating effect is not the only sign of weightlessness and the ones seen in Marooned are easily seen as mechanical.

    What ignorance. The jacket corners are connected to the rest of the jacket. The pendulum effect from the fixed plastic tube attachment is causing the pull and push motion.

    Inertia. The movement is fully consistent with the energy from the oxygen attachment. There appears no explanation for the puffed up jacket!
     
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    No it isn't. It doesn't connect with the corner of the jacket. There's no identifiable force from the oxygen attachment that can make the corner of the jacket go back down after it goes up. The movement of the corner is entirely consistent with movement in strong gravity. There's an obvious up and an obvious down such as there is in this video.

    ISS space station treadmill running



    It's completly different from the environment in this video in which there's no up or down.

    Our World: Exercise Equipment

    (3:17 time mark)


    Collins' jacket corner hangs when he stops running the way it would in gravity. Notice how these jacket corners don't hang when there's no movement.

    Discovery Crew Enters International Space Station
     

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