The Apollo 11 Astronauts are Bad Liars

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  1. Scott

    Scott Well-Known Member

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    I've been deep in the woods where there's hardly any light pollution. I used to lie on my back and watch the satellites. They look just like stars but they're moving. Lots of man-made objects have left earth. Are you trying to make Apollo hoax-believers look silly?

    http://www.whale.to/m/disin.html
    http://www.whale.to/b/sweeney.html
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    There's a ton of proof that the Apollo moon missions were faked and there's zero proof that they were real.
    https://forum.cosmoquest.org/showth...pollo-footage-was-filmed-in-air-here-on-earth


    Jarrah White believes that there has been some space travel even though he believes that the Apollo moon missions were faked.

    Jarrah White: "Go away, Flat Earthers & Space Travel Deniers!"



    He seems to believe that the unmanned Mars missions were faked too.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=marsfaker


     
  2. Poohbear

    Poohbear Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was Lee de Forest, the father of the vacuum tube and modern
    electronics, one of America's most famous scientists, who made
    the point in 1965 that it is impossible for a rocket to achieve escape
    velocity and enter orbit.
    Like the mighty Saturn V moon rocket hoax, ALL space rockets are
    just Hollywood style forgeries. Perhaps you can explain why - I am
    just pointing out the facts. I don't believe any earth satellite, other
    than the moon, is man-made.
     
  3. Scott

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    Betamax101 Well-Known Member

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    Three years ago and this crazy spammer kicks up a video that was already responded to and where he ignored all responses.
     
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    Soupnazi Well-Known Member

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    There is no proof or evidence of any kind that the lunar missions were faked. You have massively failed with every attempt to present evidence. On the other hand you are wrogn there is absolute proof that they were real and you cannot challenge it.
     
  6. Scott

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    Spamming, obfuscating, delusional and owned. You rake up a 3 year old thread where you totally ignored previous response videos and questions.

    http://debunking-a-moron.blogspot.com/

    These are examples of the forum spamming to this day still occurring:-





    I wonder, if like me, you think this behaviour is a symptom of some sort of obsessive-compulsive disorder. It really isn't the action of somebody searching for the truth, but rather one that has an axe to grind.


    UPDATE:

    The following forum post describes the craziness of this individual and his blatant and ongoing dishonesty.



    Cosmored/Fatfreddy88/Drifty/Scott/Rocky has a whole series of evasion tactics :-

    1. For images or video: "Nothing that's fakable can be used as proof as it might be fake."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own images and videos. He will never actually prove it is faked or offer the number of people involved in such.

    2. For websites: "It's possible that your sites are genuine and it's possible that some public-relations agency created them to help fool the public. Something that may or may not be bogus can't be used as proof." Source.
    or
    "That's a disinfo site."

    He will never apply this moronic circular logic to his own appallingly inept websites. He will never address any website that solidly refutes his claims. He never offers any proof that any website is "disinfo" or "public-relations".

    3. For Expert Testimony: "Only a person with a high background in photography would be able to deal with it "

    For "photography" insert anything. He is a layman on everything associated with space travel so uses this evasion tactic frequently. Basically if he doesn't understand it, it is ignored and of course the person providing the information must automatically be in on the moronic hoax.

    4. For Rebuttal: "...so we already know what you posted is sophistry. "
    or
    "I can't say I'm one hundred percent sure he's a paid disinfo agent but his behavior fits the profile perfectly."

    This enables him to completely ignore any response, which he routinely does anyway, but throws this in for effect. Needless to say, he will never offer anything to backup his ad hominem statement.

    5. Miscellaneous: ".anyone who sees it will see that he's just a paid sophist."

    This is probably the worst one of all. For this enormous diversionary statement, he gets to ignore every single thing written by an expert in almost every aspect of the Apollo Missions. He gets to ignore a concise website detailing debunks for almost all his total crap. He gets to ignore every post made where he always get his ass handed to him. The basis for this is his "credibility test".

    6. Credibility Test: "This calls for a credibility test. XXXXXXX maintains that the Chinese spacewalk was real and not faked in a water tank. Do you agree with him?

    This is where the spammer uses one of his pre-determined idiotic conspiracies or erroneous claims as the yardstick for a credibility test. He is the arbitrator of its provenance therefore anyone who disagrees with it can now be referred to as "discredited" and all their rebuttal can be ignored.

    7. When all else fails: "I think the rest are moot now that you`ve been discredited and there are a lot of clear anomalies that prove the footage ...."

    So when he routinely gets his claim debunked, it is "moot" because of "all the others". It never occurs to him that all the other evidence has been debunked and was also "moot" when it was addressed. When pushed to provide a list of items to address, at all costs he will not do this because it can be seen where they have all been debunked.

    8. Just deny everything: "I've never seen it debunked. I've seen people try to obfuscate it and then consider it to have been debunked."

    He's never seen ANYTHING debunked? An utterly ludicrous statement that he uses based on his own inept layman understanding. His ignorance apart, he seeks to pigeon hole every single debunk into responses that he says are diversion, because he says so.

    9. Idiotic Closes: "You'd get laughed out of the debating hall ..."

    or

    "you're about as impressive as the Black Knight in this video"


    The sheer irony of this is always lost on him. If ever there was somebody who behaved like the Black Knight - as his arm gets chopped off it's a "moot point" it would be this serial forum spammer. There is not a debating environment on this planet where this person would show up to. He knows more than anyone that he would get the floor wiped with his drivel.

    10. Divert/Obfuscate/Re-spam: This is where he avoids the item completely and gish-gallops away with repeated spam. Almost certainly he will keep avoiding the original claim.

    This person has been doing all of the above across 100's of forums for (best guess) coming up to 17 years. He cuts and pastes duplicate posts, responses, key phrases and dismissal videos. He determines any one or more of the above and posts them out, then slams a huge post with repeated and debunked bullshit. There is simply no level of response that can get through to somebody who has terminal Dunning and Kruger syndrome.
     
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    Anomolies prove nothing.

    Of course you have no anomolies or evidence to begin with.
     
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    Bumping his idiot thread.
     

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