The Attempt to Establish a Climate Ministry of Truth

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  1. Sunsettommy

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    Sorry, but I don't think he chose it.
     
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    Orientation is not a choice, but lifestyle is.
     
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    I was teasing about it, maybe that was bad idea, but I don't care is whether they are gay, straight or bisexual, as freedom of choice is theirs
     
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    Meanwhile, back in reality, it's the denier side which has shown a Stalinist devotion to censoring any contrary ideas. Not just in climte science, but in all areas of science. Lately, they've been most active in attempting to censor any inconvenient COVID science.

    https://climate.law.columbia.edu/Silencing-Science-Tracker

    As conservatives usually do, they project their own actions on to moral people as a way of deflecting attention away from those actions.
     
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    Sure.:banana:

    Climate Realism Meets Cancel Culture at Duke University
     
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    That's just baldly false.
    Still trying to pretend the climategate emails don't say what they self-evidently do say?

    As propagandists usually do, anti-fossil-fuel scaremongers project their own actions on to moral people as a way of deflecting attention away from those actions.
     
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    So, like I said, the righties here are concentrating on fraud and censorship across the board, not just in climate science.

    Well, at least they were. Being tossed out of office by voters kind of put their Stalinist plans on hold for a while. We know that the Stalinist conservative hydra isn't dead. We just cut off a few heads. They'll grow back.
     
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    Ha ha, you ignored FIVE examples of climate Realists being lied to or prevented from presentations or exposing the warmist/alarmist lies and fraud activities.

    How do you sleep at night?
     
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    Then the greenhouse in my veggie garden shouldn't be dropping 30 or more degrees each day as the sun goes down, right?
     
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    I see you didn't bother to read further in the linked post.

    ". . . Contrary to NASA’s claims, CO2 molecules do not act “exactly how” the walls of a greenhouse do. Real-world experiments have shown CO2 is no more or less effective at “trapping heat” than a non-greenhouse gas like Argon is, and air with 1,000,000 ppm CO2 is no warmer than air with 400 ppm CO2.

    According to observations recorded by Linker and colleagues (1999), when the temperature rise in the morning as sunlight penetrates through the windows of a real greenhouse, CO2 reaches 2000 ppm by about 7 a.m. Then, as the morning wears on, CO2 gradually falls to around 800 ppm between 10 a.m. and 2 p.m., or as the solar radiation reaches its 800 to 1000 W/m² mid-day peak. By evening, CO2 gradually rises to 2000 ppm again before plummeting to below 500 ppm as the sunlight penetration diminishes.

    There is no observable evidence provided showing CO2 alters the temperatures inside a greenhouse. Instead, the CO2 concentrations change in response to changes in solar radiation and temperature rather than acting “exactly how” warmth-amplifying “tiny heaters” would in a greenhouse. . . . "
     
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    I guess sarcasm isn't an international language... carry on.
     
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    It does not come through well on line. And of course the claim of sarcasm is too often an escape hatch to avoid embarrassment.
     
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    It is shocking and appalling how NASA is pushing absurd nonscience on defenseless children. CO2 absorbs IR radiation but then almost immediately re-emits it. In fact, because the air is so dry at the typical final emission altitude from which surface heat is eventually lost to the cold of outer space, IR radiation from CO2 accounts for much of the outbound IR radiation flux that keeps the earth from getting hotter! Adding CO2 just increases the average final emission altitude and correspondingly reduces its temperature, maintaining thermal equilibrium. The effect of CO2 on surface temperature may therefore be undetectably small.
     
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    Science News vs. Science
    Kip Hansen
    Science Journalism is Hard. It is hard to do right and thoroughly in the space provided by publishers. Science journalism (including health reporting) has a special edge to it, as…
     
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    Shock Wave: 50 Prominent German Actors Launch Campaign Satiring Corona Lockdowns, Fear-Mongering
    By P Gosselin on 24. April 2021

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    A series of over fifty 1-minute long satirical video clips made respectively by more than 50 German actors protesting the government COVID lockdowns, fear-mongering and suppression of dissenting views have sent shock waves across Germany.

    More than 50 German prominent film and television personalities have sent a shockwave across the German speaking part of Europe with a large-scale Internet action under the motto #allesdichtmachen (close everything down).

    The artists such as Volker Bruch, Meret Becker, Ulrike Folkerts, Jan Josef Liefers and many more simultaneously released their ironic, satirical clips with personal statements on the German government’s Corona policy on Instagram and YouTube.

    Entire collection of satirical video clips here, here and here.

    Leading German politicians and media outlets have reacted in anger, indignation and outrage that prominent figures would deviate and dare to challenge the state-imposed state of fear. . . .
     
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    The cabal is extensive.

    The Climate Propaganda Cabal
    Kip Hansen
    “For God’s sake, do not platform climate denialists. … there is no longer any good faith argument against climate science—and if one accepts the science, one also accepts the imperative…
     
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    Appalling -- but not unexpected.
     
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    The cabal is effective.
    Turning Opinion into Science Fact
    Kip Hansen
    “The 1.5 degrees C limit wasn’t plucked from thin air—it was informed by the best available science. Between 2013 and 2015, an extensive United Nations review process determined that limiting…
     
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