The "Attempted Bribery Isn't A Crime" Defense

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  1. Lesh

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    Absolutely agree.
     
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    And Fox is where most Trumpers get their "news"
     
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    There is the new revelation that Trump was talking to Sondland, on the phone and so loud that Sondland had to pull his phone away from his head, allowing everyone around Sondland, who was in a public restaurant, to hear the conversation. They were discussing the degree to which they were succeeding at bringing the Ukrainians into their corrupt plot.

    Intelligence agencies are claiming that calls to and from Sondland, with Trump were most likely spied on by Russians. I just don’t see how anyone can continue to support Trump, especially when he makes what Nixon did seem rather mild. At least environmental protections were put in place during Nixon’s presidency.
     
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    Perhaps talking to an ambassador on a cell phone in a public place is even more criminal than having a personal server.
     
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    Your usual mischaracterization duly noted..
    So then was it bribery when Joe held up funds to get the prosecutor fired?
     
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    Of course Fox is the unholy wholely owned subsidiary of Trump enterprises.
     
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    No, because Joe The Joe was not getting anything personally out of that.
     
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    I hate to have to remind everyone but the Trump fans will continue to support him even if he brought a live baby out on the White House lawn and decapitated it.

    Trumpian s would say. "Oh good for the POTUS that baby needed to die be ausrvit would have grown up to be Democrat."
     
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    Who cares?:bored:

    This thread is about TRUMP.

    If all that people have are completely unrelated partisan "talking points", based on hyper-partisan "whataboutism", it seems that Trump's "defenses" have grown rather slim.:bored:

    That said, if one really wants to discuss the Biden matter, there are already several threads addressing it (or feel free to start a new one).

    THIS thread is about TRUMP'S BRIBERY.

    As to the OP, Ingraham is a Comedian (that is just doing shtick to satisfy the people that she hopes to sell books to).

    Obviously, Trump's Actions = BRIBERY.

    ^That is beyond dispute.

    Carry on. :salute:
     
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    Not really sure it meets the definition of bribery. Bribery is paying someone money as a direct payment.

    Since Trump wasn't saying he would pay them if they investigated Biden, he was telling them that they wouldn't be getting the money that was already promised by Congress if they DIDN'T investigate him.

    The proper charges would be Abuse of Power, Extortion, and Misuse of Public Funding.
     
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    You all need to read the Federal definition about what it takes to find standing in a bribery case.

    Not even close.....
     
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    If an old lady gives candy to school children, no questions. 2. Old lady gets a fundraiser for school funds, people donate . No questions. If you suggest your land site for orphanage, without spelling it out, then you're told to answer for being there. Bribery! Yup its Bribery.

    Where did the cold jackets come in and we all know Trump is standing around a barrel fire with some cold jackets and there's bribery. 10 year bribery, just digging it deeper.

    Where did someone say what I was going to do with the land already in my hands? I did? When I spit on it for over 3 years?

    To finish coursework, the school fundraisers pass around, people donate, candy to kids, family pressure is On and not Off finding transitions for houses, i'm sat in a corner to Answer for the presentation of the option existing without unilateral choices having existed. 10 years.
     
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    Gonna be a mistake that anybody agrees with hanging me upside down on my head, a humiliation, a defeat, a cursing grisly, disgusting acknowledged humiliation, that I ever started any internet text whatsoever, treatied out of me. That's going to be an equal punch in the face.

    Fascination on this level with foreign languages and the range of impenetrable personal interpretations, at this level, is the death of organization and society. Somebody's murdered so says; somebody's cheating so says;, internet because so says so I say; people have clinged onto the stable, unchanging, 10 year definition of Worthless. Being "in the loop" is self-delusion, self-grandeur, and false reporting . Reporting is 50% false reporting anyway. Anywhere.
     
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    Ah to have such a simple mind... The answer, of course, is obvious if Joe getting the Prosecutor fired isn't bribery then what Trump did cannot be bribery and vice versa.
     
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    Sick people use the professional blockade situations they create, that they report and support, that professionals cite, that are in their domain, to force internet communication, that they use as sick people again, to make no situations where they could correct their outlook and statements. They use that to have implied that the meeting the internet was going to make through any 10 medias, was tainted, part of a blasphemy and Discovery that anyone arrived, and that they're going to do more of that same self-pleasure with others on the internet.
     
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    It ended the investigation of his son's firm. And in Trumps case not only did the investigation not happen the aid went through anyway. Please note further the only thing that was ever necessary was the publicity of Joe's actions. The investigation in and of itself wasn't as the disappearance of Joe Biden's candidacy down the drain of really bad ideas without any investigation ever happening attests.
     
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    Yovanovitch testified that Burisma WAS under investigation when Biden threatened Ukraine.
     
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    They're probably butterflies pinned to walls of some lepidopterist. What, al the characters are all aware each other is already in some restraining order, and all the characters have never had each other's confidence or phone number, or respect, and all the characters cite the police choices as a blind scared stampede at each other. Then everybody is some insect of study not ever in an interactive position ever. ridiculous.
     
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    OK last one, you know what 5 doctors at my University are on the look out for. The shy Asian phenomenon and I get all the Asians mad. I should look out for Asians and their feelings. Don't forget, they also actively protect Asians in the future, because the first Asians I met are also now in Graduate study, and they're already in, and they get preference. These tan-colored yellow that have the propensity for first generation culture-loss with supreme professional attainment with no attachments or reasons to like anybody with Model Minority Models, whatever.
     
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    No, no, and for 9th gabillion tine that prosecutor was not investigating Burisma. He was not investigating anything. That is why he had go go, and he went.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...orced-out-ukraines-top-prosecutor/3785620002/

    PS the useless prosecutor was Shokin and he was not prosecuting coruptiom.

    The other story about Burisma was MUS....Made Up Schiest
     
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    According to you. The emails that connect the dots actually exist. Your pretensions other wise not with standing
     
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    no bribery is giving something of value to someone for doing something.
     

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