The audit report is in for Maricopa county, AZ. Here it is.

It like asking the mafia investigate their own actions.

The board chairman summarized it very well.

"The Cyber Ninjas’ opinions come from a misuse and misunderstanding of the data provided by the county and are twisted to fit the narrative that something went wrong," - County Board Chairman Jack Sellers

I knew two things were going to happen after the report comes out:
- The count was accurate and Biden won
- Trump and his team of "cyber ninjas" would continue to push conspiracies

They'll never stop crying about losing. Never!

 

Please read posting 25 and go to the link.

 

See posting 25 and go to the link.

There are huge mistakes that the Ninjas made.

It's just plain old embarrassing, even more embarrassing for people who parrot them.

For instance, the mail-in ballots did not come in after the deadline, they were correctly postmarked. They were ENTERED INTO THE SYSTEM after the deadline. There is a huge difference, and the lying ninjas know this as well.

Do better next time.

This is just plain old sad.

 

Read posting 25 and educate yourself.

 

I was told to contact MY Senator to ask those questions.

 

Sure as soon as you educate yourself that 50k suspect votes is not insignificant

 

And yet it happened.

 

Statistically, 750 voters should die each day given that number of voters.

 

Darth, you're not looking at the big picture.

First, there is NOTHING that indicated any of these "ballots" were counted. Just because they exist doesn't mean they were added anywhere.

For instance,

* the machine would reject any duplicate ballots.
* people that voted by mail AND at the polling place would only have ONE ballot counted
* ballots received after the deadline are NOT calculated.

Further, there is nothing that tells us HOW these votes were distributed (% for Trump, % for Biden).

Here are the numbers.

1,672,143 (Biden)
+1,661,686 (Trump)
-----------
3,333,829 Total


57,050 is 1.71% of 3,333,829

Statistically, this margin of error is neglible.



Source: https://provokeinsights.com/election-polls-why-you-need-to-know-what-margin-of-error-is-right-now/




https://www.statista.com/statistics/1035992/winning-margins-us-presidential-elections-since-1789/


CONCLUSION: What this means is the error rate is consistent with every election the US has had for presidential elections. It doesn't necessarily constitute fraud (the deliberate attempt to push votes toward a specific candidate).

As I've mentioned many times before, one of my degrees is in math. It is statistically IMPOSSIBLE for MILLIONS of fraudulent votes to show up in counts around the country. That didn't even happen before polling places were introduced.

The most obvious reason should be clear by now. There is absolutely no way something like that could happen and NOBODY has slipped up or even confessed or even sent an anonymous letter to the press? Criminals are mostly stupid. They like to show off.

Think about it, Darth. Several people that participate in the Capitol riot were located because they posted pictures of themselves on their social media and dating sites. These people committed crimes on January 6, 2021 and they shared that with strangers (and the police who monitor that stuff). NOBODY involved in the "biggest election fraud in US history" has said anything? Isn't that weird?

Take a guess on how many couples break up in a 10-month span. Now, using your guesstimate for that, do you honestly believe that a couple going through a break-up, separation and/or divorce would not rat on the other one if they knew about their participation in widespread election fraud? No jilted lovers with an axe to grind anywhere in the country? The woman that stole Pelosi's laptop was found because of her ex-bf and the Capitol riot was much, much smaller than the network of fraudsters to pull off millions of fake votes.

https://nypost.com/2021/01/21/woman-who-allegedly-stole-pelosis-laptop-blames-ex-for-charges/

There were some posts on this forum about two Republicans who were charges with voter tampering by using robocalls to discourage mostly minorities from voting. That was TWO people and a phone system and they were caught. Again, not looking at Trump. Not looking at Biden. Do you honestly believe that <some outrageous number of> people orchestrated this "widespread election fraud" to the tune of millions of votes and authorities have found zilch in what is coming up on a year's time?

I would hold the same opinion even if Trump was my candidate of choice. I'm just looking at the numbers, probabilities and statistics and they don't add up no matter how you crunch the numbers.

 

Let me break it down for you:

Sorry, you do not have proof of squat. These findings, if considered seriously ( which they will not be ) will have to be proven in a court of law.
And why would CN do that? They already publicly stated Biden won the election AND that original vote count was accurate. These anomalies do not prove that Biden didn't win, and, in fact, as I just stated, they prove that Biden won. What you are asking for is to throw out the 50k ballots. Well, before that could be done, it would have to have been proven in court before they were certified, no judge is going to toss out these ballots at this juncture. And even if it were done before the certification, this is not an official audit, the results would be challenged in court. Every claim would have to be proven. Just coming out with a report, when the history of Doug Logan is to back conspiracy theories, that the whole thing was a **** show, that
Logan has conflicts of interest no way is any judge going to take CN report seriously. What a judge is going to determine, BECAUSE CN said that Biden won, that the dubious findings have only one intent, to cast doubt on the election, an outcome which serves no just purpose, and will be thrown out of court on those grounds.

And........

Well, guess what, DOJ has subpoenaed CN's documents and methods and CN is defying the order.

I wonder why.

No judge is going to throw out those ballots based on the findings of CN.

Why?

All elections have issues. This is only one county. If we had to audit every county in America where each audit took 9 months, the elections would be in chaos. The CN officials publicly stated that Biden won, and that is that.

Consider:

https://apnews.com/article/arizona-5179ca25963431ae137a86ef999a69c2

“There are too many flaws in the way this review was conducted to trust it,” said Trey Grayson, a former Republican secretary of state in Kentucky who was the coauthor of a paper outlining the extensive problems.

Grayson cites a series of red flags, from biased and inexperienced contractors to conspiracy-chasing funders and bizarre, unreliable methods.

Still, leaders of the review have a history of making misleading claims about their findings, and those claims are amplified by Trump and his allies.

A look at what election experts cite as the top troubles with the election review in Maricopa County:

BIASED CONTRACTORS

Fann selected Cyber Ninjas even though it had no prior experience in elections and never submitted a formal bid for the work. Its owner, Doug Logan, had tweeted support for conspiracy theories claiming Biden’s victory was illegitimate. Logan deleted his Twitter account before his Arizona contract was announced.

BIASED FUNDING SOURCES

The review was funded almost exclusively by groups led by prominent Trump supporters active in the movement to cast doubt on the 2020 election results.

As of July, five groups had raised nearly $5.7 million for the effort. Among those leading the fundraising groups are Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security advisor; Sidney Powell, a onetime Trump lawyer who filed a number of baseless lawsuits challenging election results; Patrick Byrne, a former chief executive of Overstock.com; and correspondents from the pro-Trump One America News Network.

The money from pro-Trump groups dwarfs the $150,000 contributed by the Arizona Senate, which commissioned the audit and hired Cyber Ninjas. Funding the audit with cash from interested parties who would like to see the effort replicated in other states raises serious doubts about the validity of the findings, said Ben Ginsberg, a prominent Republican election attorney.

“The audience is the funders,” Ginsberg said. “The outside funding sources is really important to concentrate on in terms of talking about the legitimacy of the audit.”

INACCURATE CLAIMS

The findings discussed publicly so far have fallen apart under scrutiny, but not before taking hold with Trump and many of his supporters who believe his false claims of fraud.

The auditors claimed a database directory was deleted from an election management server, alleging the potential illegal destruction of data.

But after Maricopa County’s technical staff explained how the hard drives on the servers were arranged, the audit’s lead digital analyst, Ben Cotton of the firm CyFIR, acknowledged that he had located all of the allegedly deleted files.

Logan has made a variety of claims about supposed irregularities that he said merited further research. He claimed there were thousands of mail ballots for which there was no record of a ballot being requested, and alleged that problems with paper and printers could allow for errors in counting ballots marked with Sharpies. Trump parroted the claims as evidence the election results are tainted. But all of them were wrong.

CONSPIRACY HUNT

The auditors appear to be chasing down bizarre conspiracy theories.

Jovan Pulitzer, an inventor and former treasure hunter, has said technology he calls “kinematic artifact detection” was being used to look for altered ballots.

Pulitzer is the author of a series of books on lost treasures, including one titled “How to Cut Off Your Arm and Eat Your Dog.” In 2000, he developed a barcode scanner called Cuecat that purported to link print magazine ads to the internet. It was later named one of the 50 worst inventions of all time by Time magazine.

One audit leader, John Brakey, said they were looking for evidence of bamboo in the ballot paper. That apparently was an attempt to test a theory that thousands of fraudulent ballots were flown in from Asia.

For a while, auditors held ballots under ultraviolet lights to look for watermarks. Maricopa County ballots do not contain watermarks, but some adherents of the Q-Anon theory believe Trump secretly watermarked ballots to catch fraud.

Cyber Ninja’s Logan has said, citing no evidence, that he believes the CIA or its former employees may be involved with “disinformation” about election fraud, according to the Arizona Mirror. The website reported Logan’s comments were made in “The Deep Rig,” a conspiratorial film claiming the election was stolen from Trump.

Logan gave the filmmakers access to restricted areas of the Arizona ballot-counting operation, including the secure area where ballots were stored.

And you want a judge to take this **** show seriously?

Given that Logan is seriously conflicted, that his fundings are all Trumpsters, backers of conspiracy theories, no way is a judge going to toss out the ballots, ballots which prove Biden won, out.

No ****ing way. Biden won, get over it.

 

Some of the problems with this list are that it indicates what was looked at and not the resolution that occurred after the issue was looked at. Much of the list is spin.
1. Part of the descrepency is that they studied a data base of addresses to get their figures not a database of voters that allows for different totals.
2. Mail in ballots number you show is false because it doesn't address the fact that some people made errors and were required to resubmit ballotts or because the signature was not clear enough and the elections people required a second ballot
3. As for dead people, voting in elections that allow mail in voting and early voting it would not be unreasonable to assume that there would be a number of people who legally voted and died before election day.
4. The "moving out of Miracopa county" votes are people like college students, members of the military, people in medical facilities, and people who own duel residences who are legally registered (see #1)
5. Duplicate votes can come from several places mistakes made because of two people with the same age and name, people who got mail in votes, but did not use them and voted in person instead. This number comes from the list of votes that were looked at not actual votes.

for further reading:
https://apnews.com/article/donald-t...izona-voting-ec714036dccf6adb09966561776cc046
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...ot-proven-viral-canvassing-report/8262315002/

 

They are not suspect.

 

So they voted first then dropped dead right after? Ok got it!

 

Also, a huge amount of the Cyber Liar's deliberate errors was because they used COMMERCIAL databases to try to find fraud. Commercial databases are notoriously inaccurate.

There are many things that the Cybeer Liars did that was just plain old wrong.

All of this will come to light, every single bit of it.

The Cyber Liars are very likely to be prosecuted by a grand jury for election tampering. Massive fines and jail sentences are in the offing for the Cyber Liars.

 

I am going to say it once again: the people who are parroting the bullshit that the Cyber Liars have produced are embarrassing themselves in the worst of ways.

Read the audit of the audit in posting 25, click on the link to the document. It tears all of their accusations to shreds with simple, easy to access facts and abundant evidence.

 

Of course that's not what that comment means. People die every day, Darth. Election laws are different for EVERY state.

Here are just a few examples.

Someone has voted by mail and went into the hospital and died. Depending on their state law, the date they died will determine if the ballot is "valid".

If the state law is ballots are counted when RECEIVED, that ballot counts.
If the state law is ballots are counted at the close of polling places (and the person is deceased on that date), the ballot is NOT counted.

Here are the death stats for Arizona for 2020



https://pub.azdhs.gov/health-stats/mu/index.php



Arizona's election rules state that early voting starts 27 days BEFORE the election date.



https://www.vote.org/state/arizona/

So, we'll look at October deaths = 5,566

300 deceased voters ballots were found. Again, we do NOT know if those numbers were calculated or who they were for. According to their election rules, any ballot received between 27 days prior to the election until 7pm on election day.

Source: https://www.vote411.org/arizona

So, as @Sirius Black stated...there could be legitimate votes from people that died sometime between October <whatever the date is for 27 days before election day) and the close of polling places at 7pm on election day.

Now, this report also doesn't tell us if any of those estimated 300 ballots are aggregated to the number of deceased at 7pm on election day (when they stop accepting ballots) or to (whenever the report was provided) numbers of deceased voters SINCE election day. The first group WOULD be counted as valid. The latter would NOT be counted so this estimate is basically meaningless. It might be in the report but I haven't had time to read the whole thing yet.

Again, though, 300 ballots didn't break the election and probably weren't fraudulent either.

 

You realize that you guys are really embarrassing yourself in a bigly way. just saying.

 

1) thanks for being the public attorney for all forum members that disagree with me. What’s your legal fee? I’d like to hire you

2) it’s way easier to fill out a dead person’s mail in ballot than it is to revive someone from the dead so they can go vote in person at the voting machine

 

Done by the Audit Guys … how many dead people did they claim voted.:

 

There can be perfect elections (though not likely), there can be errors, and there can be fraud. Fraud is strongly suspected and probable if the number of errors far exceed the expected or some standard deviation. You only have to prove intent in a court of law if you are convicting an individual(s) criminally. Implied intent is sufficient if specific people are not known or threatened, although I do not know what legal recourse can come out of that.

 

A dog barking in the night means nothing. 25 dogs barking at the same time in the night means something. [Why the old Bell System had their internal 0001 circuit for reporting anomalies.]

 

Cast for which candidate(s)? Isn't that a key piece to know???

 

Just because Obama was able to visit all 57 states shouldn't be held against him....... I mean he intended to fundamentally transform all 57.

 

1. If you have to ask...

2. Walk me through it. How does that happen millions of times? Just go with the estimate of 300.

a. How does somebody know somebody else died and has a ballot?
b. How does random person match deceased signature?
c. How many random people need to do this to make a dent in numbers for either candidate?

Tell me how you would be a criminal and do this 300 times without arousing suspicion or alerting authorities?

 

a. People are living with their parents way longer than they used to (I won’t get into why or what party is responsible). This makes it easy to fill it out for them

B. Really? I forged my parents signature many of times to get out of school. It isn’t that hard to do

c. Probably way more than actually did it but that doesn’t mean we should make it easy to happen. It’s just one small piece of the fraud puzzle