The Basics, Abortion is a Homicide, Face that Fact

Get back to us when you and "the truth" finally meet one another, m'kay?

 

FoxHastings said: ↑
You want it to suffer??/ Why would doctors want it to suffer??

I never indicated I wanted it to suffer, why do YOU? That's barbaric!!

As usual you couldn't didn't answer my question so posed Really Stupid questions to try to distract from the fact YOU can never answer questions.

And your hatred for , and fear of, women once again raises it's ugly head in a scenario so Beyond bizarre.


.... normal people don't think of things like that......

 

Next time you fall pregnant and have no means of saving the child from the American way of (tortured) life, your opinion might be worth having.

 

OOOhh, I sense some hurt feelings here.....


But I see you have no idea of what sexist even means ...it's not sexist to say that Anti-Choicers are against women and their rights, they are!

It IS sexist to try to insult someone by calling them a girl..... being a girl isn't a bad thing but when YOU used it as an insult THAT was sexism......glad to help

 

No, it was nothing, said nothing, did nothing, .....and should no "logic " whatsoever...

 

You: ""You must explain to pro-lifers how that potential isn't being stolen in the exact same way through abortion""

Uh, ya, been done, doesn't work.
and doesn't need to...Pro-Choice has law and science on their side.

Besides, do you really think these raving misogynists CARE about """that potential isn't being stolen in the exact same way through abortion""

NO, they do not.....I've had long conversations here and every Anti-Choicer has always devolved into "The slut should've kept her legs together" and women must be punished for having sex...."life potential" impresses neither them nor I in the abortion debate..

 

OH MYGAWD!
What a convoluted idea....gotta hand it to you, only one other poster here gives you a run for your money on bizarre!



Too funny....so now surgery should be done with no anesthesia !!!????


You WANT the fetus, which is being aborted because of it's illness or the woman's life or health , to FEEL PAIN to prove being aborted is an atrocity?!!! WTF!

WOW, you really seem to hate women and fetuses if you want them to suffer through surgery...

 

kazenatsu said: ↑
So you approve of giving the fetus sedatives so it won't feel pain when it's being terminated?

That was your response to the post above yours.

You seem to be saying that it's "sick" to give a fetus sedatives so it won't feel pain........

why would anyone feel like that..

 

Since the VAST majority of abortions take place long before an embryo developed anything approaching a nervous system pain is not even possible. For the small percentage that remain there is no functional brain to "Feel" anything at all anyway....there's your simple facts for 'ya'.

 

That's not true. You really have to stretch the definition of "nervous system" to claim that.
Why don't you just say you don't believe there's enough brain development for the fetus to comprehend the pain?

 

In some cases I have heard they inject the anesthetic directly into the fetus through the woman's belly with a long needle.
(Usually late-term abortions when the fetus has something wrong with it)

 

"Free nerve endings, the “alarm buttons,” begin to develop at about seven weeks' ... At this time, however, the nervous system has yet to fully mature. .... The absence of pain in the fetus does not resolve the morality of abortion ..."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/

"In 2009, most (64.0%) abortions were performed at ≤8 weeks' gestation, and 91.7% were performed at ≤13 weeks' gestation. Few abortions (7.0%) were performed at 14–20 weeks' gestation, and even fewer (1.3%) were performed at ≥21 weeks' gestation. From 2000 to 2009, the percentage of all abortions performed at ≤8 weeks' gestation increased 12%, whereas the percentage performed at >13 weeks' decreased 12%. Moreover, among abortions performed at ≤13 weeks' gestation, the distribution shifted toward earlier gestational ages, with the percentage of these abortions performed at ≤6 weeks' gestation increasing 47%."
https://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss6108a1.htm

Unfortunately for you, I have actual data to back my assertions.

 

So what! It's still gets the pain killer....

 

Do you have a credible source?

 

You act as though the date is meaningless and try to compare it to a born child. When practically all abortions are performed the fetus weighs a fraction of an ounce! It has no neural connections. You are personifying it. Why not call it a toddler? You can get more emotional mileage

 

Yes having an abortion is just about “convenience“ I do have to agree going through nine months of pregnancy, the pain of childbirth, and then the next 18 years of a woman’s life raising a child is just a mere inconvenience. (Sarcasm alert)

 

kazenatsu said: ↑
In some cases I have heard they inject the anesthetic directly into the fetus through the woman's belly with a long needle.
(Usually late-term abortions when the fetus has something wrong with it)

Got an answer yet

 

There are no sources, it is just something he "Heard". Probably in an argument he had with himself that he lost.

 

It is an inconvenience that many see as a miracle. Others see it as too high a price to pay for 20 minutes of pleasure.

 

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...and they certainly have a right to their opinion....

and if they want to ignore biology and declare it a MIRACLE! ...they can do that , too.

Isn't CHOICE nice!

Only 20 minutes ! What! Oooh, I feel bad for you....

Yes, some have the opinion that it is too high a price to pay for the physical pain and damage and the next 40 years.......

Isn't CHOICE nice!

 

I wonder how many men who have to pay child support for 18 years for a kid they don’t want see it as a miracle. If I got pregnant at 17 I would never have been able to graduate college, never to have become a teacher etc. when I was ready for a child I felt it was wonderful....I also find it offensive that you reduce women to a sex act. <Rule 3> You’re from the school where women shouldn’t have sex unless they want to have children. We are dirty and sinful, right?

 

Yes Foxie.....I'm sure you pull marathons but I wasn't including multiple partners.
Of course 20 minutes I was referring to was the actual act. That is all immaterial. Never found it an attraction when people directly or indirectly boast of their sexual abilities as you and Renee seem to do. It's no wonder you so highly encourage abortion to give cover to your own activity.

 

The Pro-Life position is misogynistic but, you are partially correct in that it should not be couched that way. The anti abort position, while it only effects women directly, is anti individual liberty, anti rational thought, anti justice, anti freedom in general.

The people that support forcing their religious beliefs on others through physical violence are pieces of human garbage. True scum of the earth.

 

The people that support forcing their secular humanist beliefs on others through ending human life in it's early stages are human garbage, True scum of the earth.

 

You should try learning the difference between a descriptive adjective and a noun. Every single human cell is human life. Should we ban all sports because someone might kill some human life ?

Let me know when you figure out the difference between a "Human" (notice the the word human in it's noun form) and a "Human cell" (notice the word human in it's descriptive adjective form).