The Bible. A problem with interpretation.

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  1. One Mind

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    Red herrings are obviously blood red !

    Haha
     
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    Interesting how an omnipotent god has no more power than a middle aged British Housewife.
    Or the Bible is just not that important to Him.
     
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    You delight in mocking the faith of millions upon millions. The Republic of China exacts the things you extol.
     
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    Not one person in human history has ever had enough faith in the Jesus character to do what he said a person of faith in him can do.
     
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    I think you made it up and are playing verbal sleight of hand, which is something dishonest "skeptics" often do. Your lack of an explanation shows it.
     
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    Ever hear of Antony of Egypt?
     
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    it's just me Well-Known Member

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    I was going to say the same thing. You are just mouthing atheist talking points with no knowledge.
     
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    Nope.. next question
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    The problem with atheist is they attack something the dont believe in .

    Illogical..
     
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    william kurps Banned

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    If I was an a atheist just go along with a normal life..

    Deitys in my mind doesn't exist.
     
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    Actually, as I AM Atheist it is HIGHLY likely I have more knowledge than you do....Have you ever wondered WHY people become Atheist?

    For myself it came about after years of Catholic school leading to questions I was not supposed to ask. After being punished for daring to ask, I sought answers for myself which then led to a lifetime of seeking.
     
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    Though some have come close. You don't like that though.
     
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    They could just as well spend time attacking Harry Potter.
     
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    Here we go....if I ever meet an atheist who doesn't think he knows more than I do I'm going to shake his hand and buy him a drink.

    I was a Priest for 10 years before I retired, and there is a hell of a lot more to it than message board experts think. And yes, I do know about word for word and thought for thought translations. It changes nothing.
     
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    Awesome...I have wanted to ask someone of your vast experience a couple questions, if you don't mind.

    Having your understanding of this religion and the "Miracles" of its founding documentation, how do you reconcile the information with data that directly contradicts it?

    Is it "The word of God" or is it metaphorical writing?
     
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    Comparing criticism to actual suppression is intellectually dishonest nonsense. When you feel the need to misrepresent someone's statements so badly, it says more about the weakness of your position than anything else.
     
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    I'm going to assume that you are not being a wise guy and that you really want to know.

    God is not a genie that you can just rub a lamp and have Him grant your wish. It takes a great deal of spiritual preparation to be able to bring about a NT type miracle (not to mention an anointing). I have been witness to more than one of these but when I tell people that they never believe me anyway. But it is God who performs the miracle, anyway, not people.
     
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    St. Anthony of Egypt - ReligionFacts
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    Nov 21, 2016 ยท Anthony of Egypt , also known as Saint Anthony, was a prominent leader among the Desert Fathers. He was born around 251 and died around 356. Anthony is a saint in the Roman Catholic Church. The biography of Anthony's life by Athanasius of Alexandria helped to spread the concept of monasticism, particularly in Western Europe through Latin translations.
     
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    I see....so you reconcile your belief by ignoring everything else and focusing on personal experience? This is an example of WHY you are not believed as you offer nothing that can be shared with others empirically. You suggest a metaphorical Bible, is that what it is?
     
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    I seriously doubt that.. from a scientific perspective I find atheist ignore statistics and logic, the universe simple couldn't exist without a Creator..... statistically speaking the probability that it is otherwise, is magnitudes beyond preposterous.
     
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    Here's one on the probability of Jesus fulfilling 8 of the over 300 prophesies of His Coming.
     
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    yeah.. I know,, you'll claim those were written After HIS Coming... OR! more typically not watch anything that disputes your belief, and refute it out of hand.
    An aside, a good friend, an astrophysist, used to chide me for proofing God through science, he said belief in God should be through faith alone.
     
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  23. it's just me

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    I didn't say any of those things. I didn't say the Bible was metaphorical, except when it is, and it will tell you when it is.

    So you're saying that I can't believe my own eyes then, is that about right? I should believe a faceless nobody who wasn't even there?
     
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    That is untrue, No One knows how the Universe came about....NO ONE. No one knows how it did not come about either and that's the point. In scientific circles we accept that simple fact but still try to figure things out.....we call that hypothesis and theory. Theology simply states a super being did it and gives up or makes things up to support it. I personally find far more tangible data to support a bouncing universe/Big Bang that an inviable and unsupported magic man.
     
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    No, I am saying I cannot believe your eyes, and I do not want or expect you to believe me either....in fact I have given you nothing to believe in the first place.
     
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