No problem. The real problem with the period of the Kings - David to Zedekiah (Judah) and David to Hoshea (Israel) is the fact that the Bible switches from one kingdom to the other with regularity. Take 2 Kings 14. We start with Judah's Amaziah and his victories over his enemies. He then challenges Jehoash, king of Israel, to battle. Jehoash tells him not to be proud of his victories and be content with what he has. Amaziah refuses and Jehoash defeats him, but doesn't kill him. We then switch to Jehoash's (Israel) story and death. Then switch back to Amaziah (Judah)and his end. Now we go back to Israel and the son of Jehoash, Jeroboam II (Israel), and we learn that he started ruling in the 15th year of Amaziah's (Judah) reign. So back we go to Amaziah (Judah) to find that he started ruling in the second year of King Jehoash's (Israel) reign. But when did Jehoash (Israel) start to reign? Apparently in the 37th year of King Joash's (Judah) reign. !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now please excuse me while I bang my head against the wall.
Hahaha.. I was beginning to think I must be losing it. What a convoluted, confusing narrative. Seriously.. you helped a lot.
Remember what happened when Noah got off of the ark with the animals. He immediately killed one of each pair of "clean" animals. Genesis 8:19-20 (MEV) = 19 Every beast, every creeping thing, every bird, and everything that moves on the earth, according to their families, went out of the ark. 20 Then Noah built an altar to the Lord and took of every clean animal and of every clean bird and offered burnt offerings on the altar."
Maybe another way of looking at the macroevolution of things is this: In the beginning, there was NOTHING that you can see today, en masse. The Oceans was there. The trees were there. The dirt and soil were there. The green vegetation and the mountains and hills were there. But everything else you probably see, en masse, was more likely than not, not there. When was the last time you saw wild animals besides birds? I mean like tigers and lions and elephants and gazelles? They were all there. But where are they all now? So true.. God did not in the original first 6 days create all the cars you see. True. Don't forget all the other gadgets.. This is very interesting to myself.. Have you ever wondered how they got paved roads onto dirt to the level and extent it is today? I mean paved roads go through Mountains now days. How in God's Earth did they pave through an entire Solid Rock Mountain without any heavy duty, high tech machinery? Not only does it require E.T machinery but it also requires alot, alot, alot of man power and gravel pick up. How long does it take to fix a sinkhole, for instance.. Now compare that to an Entire Mountain. The U.S has only been a Nation since the year 1787 with The U.S Constitution. 1787 is only 231 years ago. During the late 18th an early 19th centuries when the UK and parts of Western Europe began to industrialise, the US was primarily an agricultural and natural resource producing and processing economy.[160] The building of roads and canals, the introduction of steamboats and the building of railroads were important for handling agricultural and natural resource products in the large and sparsely populated country of the period. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industrial_Revolution Sometimes a bulldozer is used to push another piece of earth moving equipment known as a "scraper". The towed Fresno Scraper, invented in 1883 by James Porteous, was the first design to enable this to be done economically, removing the soil from the cut and depositing it elsewhere on shallow ground (fill). Many dozer blades have a reinforced center section with this purpose in mind, and are called "bull blades". The first bulldozers were adapted from Holt farm tractors that were used to plow fields. The versatility of tractors in soft ground for logging and road building contributed to the development of the armoured tank in World War I. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bulldozer Even if the bulldozers of that time was capable, even if armoured tanks were capable, did humans really go out of their way to go into unpopulated places to pave roads through Mountains so as to give the residents an easier road travel in their cars? By 1900, mass production of automobiles had begun in France and the United States. ... In the United States, brothers Charles and Frank Duryea founded the Duryea Motor Wagon Company in 1893, becoming the first American automobile manufacturing company. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_automobile I mean, what was the MPG back then? The bald eagle is both the national bird and national animal of the United States of America. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald_eagle Michigan bald eagle shot and killed, reward offered for culprit http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/05/0...ot-and-killed-reward-offered-for-culprit.html And here am I wondering if I'm doing something wrong to The U.S? I mean, maybe persons should begin taking an inventory of what is really important, not only for their OWN lives for the lives of other neighbors.. If drugs and freedom were that important in life, I sure as heck wouldn't want to be around regular everyday citizens, that's for sure. In either direction.
Good one ... there ya go ! I had not yet found that one. Another mind numbing contradiction ... a tear in the space- time continuum. The authors of this stuff were not the sharpest tools in the shed.
The story as written is really hilarious. That's why Noah's ark will never be found. He used the wood to roast all of the animals he had just saved from the flood.
Oh I am sure someone built a boat at one point and perhaps used that boat to save some of their stuff from a local flood. Now a boat that would fit two of every land species .. that would be something Never mind the stark raving lunacy of believing that Noah and 3 sons could have managed to collect 2 of every species - Panda Bears from China, Polar Bears from the Arctic (how long would that trip take and good luck trapping them and hauling them back) Spectacled Bears from South America and that is just a few species of bears. Kangaroos from Australia, Lions and Tigers and Hippos from Africa ... and on and on. Assuming 2 years per trip .. which would be amazingly short for that time period .. the first species would be dying by the time you collected the 20th .. and you would not be done with the species of Bears ! Preposterous nonsense.
And don't forget the food and water for all of the animals. Genesis 6:21 (Voice) = "Also, you must bring food with you. Bring every kind of food that may be eaten, and store it all inside the ark. That way, you and all of the creatures will have enough food to eat." Do you know how much food one elephant can eat per day? "Elephants may spend 12-18 hours a day feeding. Adult elephants can eat between 200-600 pounds of food a day. As herbivores, elephants consume grasses, tree foliage, bark, twigs, and other vegetation daily. Elephants can also drink up to 50 gallons of water a day about as much as a standard bathtub holds." http://www.nationalelephantcenter.org/learn/ So 2 elephants eating 400 pounds of food per day would eat 146,000 pounds total together in a year. That's 73 tons of food just for two elephants. And if they drank 50 gallons of water each that would be 36,500 gallons of water just for the 2 of them for the year. That's an additional 304,410 pounds or 152.2 tons of weight.Now calculate all of the necessary food and water for all of the other animals. How many seals do 2 polar bears need for a year? How many animals do 2 lions need for a year? And so forth. So can all of that food and water fit into a boat the size of the ark as described in the Bible? The interesting thing is that Hannibal and the Romans transported elephants and other large animals from Africa to Europe by rather primitive wooden boats. They were true masters of logistics. But they didn't take a year to do it. And remember, the rain fall would be over 6 inches per minute for 40 days and 40 nights if it covered Mount Everest plus 20 feet. Such a deluge would be completely suffocating and deafening. The Noah story is simply a war story. It might be about the Egyptian or Hittite invasion of the Levant area. Its purpose is to teach complete obedience and total loyalty to the Boss.
Remember that during the Roman times there was this new invention called a "Road" and well .. Africa is not that far from the Middle east. Are you sure they were "primitive boats" ? Romans had some rather fancy boats.
Remember how Hannibal invaded Italy with war elephants by crossing the Alps? I'm sure that he didn't take the long way around by going through Asia.
'The interesting thing is that Hannibal and the Romans transported elephants and other large animals from Africa to Europe by rather primitive wooden boats. They were true masters of logistics. But they didn't take a year to do it.' It's just 14 Km from the African Coast to the Iberian Peninsula. As I understand it the march actually started in modern Spain, through the Pyrenees and then the Alps. With various events in between. The Greeks and Romans had large vessels from the 7th century BC. Whatever ships they used they had no problem shipping Elephants. .
There are stories in the Bible about elephants being used in wars = 1 Maccabees 1:17 He invaded Egypt with a very strong force, including soldiers in chariots and on elephants, as well as cavalry and a large fleet. 1 Maccabees 3:34 So he gave Lysias authority over half of his armed forces and war elephants. He gave him orders regarding what he wanted him to do, including the matter of the inhabitants of Judea and Jerusalem. 1 Maccabees 6:30 The total number of his forces was one hundred thousand army troops and twenty thousand cavalry, with thirty-two elephants trained for war. 1 Maccabees 6:34 They aroused the elephants using grape and mulberry juices, to get them ready for battle. 1 Maccabees 6:37 Strong covered wooden towers were set on top of the elephants. Special harnesses were fastened on each animal. On each were four armed men who fought from there, and an Indian driver also. 1 Maccabees 6:38 The remaining cavalry were stationed on either side of the elephants, to harass the enemy while being protected inside the two flanks of the army. 1 Maccabees 8:6 They also defeated Antiochus the Great, king of Asia, who went to fight against them with one hundred twenty elephants, with cavalry, chariots, and a very large army. They crushed him, 1 Maccabees 11:56 Trypho captured the elephants and gained control of Antioch. 2 Maccabees 11:4 He gave no thought whatsoever to the power of God but was inflated by his tens of thousands of foot soldiers, his thousands of cavalry, and his eighty elephants. 2 Maccabees 13:2 With him was Lysias, Antiochus’ guardian and head of the government. Each one had a Greek force of one hundred ten thousand foot soldiers, fifty-three hundred cavalry, and twenty-two elephants, as well as three hundred chariots armed with scythes. 2 Maccabees 14:12 Immediately choosing Nicanor the commander of the elephants and appointing him governor of Judea, the king sent him out 2 Maccabees 15:21 The Maccabee saw the masses that were before him, the diverse sorts of equipped military arms, and the fierceness of the elephants, so he extended his hands to heaven and called on the wonder-working Lord. He knew that it isn’t through arms that God decides to award victory but he gives it to those who deserve it. 3 Maccabees 5:2 He ordered him to drug all the elephants—five hundred in number—with heaping handfuls of frankincense and much unmixed wine on the following day. When the abundant quantity of drink had driven them wild, Hermon was to bring them in so that the Jews might meet their doom. 3 Maccabees 5:10 Now when Hermon had made the savage elephants drunk so that they were full of a great quantity of wine and drugged with frankincense, he came to the palace courtyard early in the morning to report to the king. 3 Maccabees 5:20 So the king, with a savagery worse than the tyrant Phalaris, said that the Jews could be grateful for today’s sleep, but “Tomorrow,” he said, “without delay, prepare the elephants in the same way for the destruction of the unseemly Jews.” 3 Maccabees 5:38 Equip the elephants yet again for the destruction of the Jews tomorrow.” 3 Maccabees 5:48 The Jews saw the dust cloud created by the elephants going out at the gate, the armed force following them, and the marching of the crowd, and they heard the noisy ruckus. 3 Maccabees 6:21 The elephants turned back on the armed forces that were following them, and they began to trample and destroy them.
Because the bible says something doesn't mean it proves anything. The authors of the bible weren't scientists. They were clerics. They lived in a time in which science was not developed. Using the bible to back up scientific comments makes no sense. It is a fine piece of literature and teaches important moral lessons but keep it in perspective.
You can count the important moral lessons that the Bible might have on one hand. The Bible is not about morality.
