The Bible is a Book of Fairy Tales

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  1. Derideo_Te

    Derideo_Te Well-Known Member

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    Please provide this alleged "evidence"!
     
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    that is what a myth is, a mix of historical fact and fiction.....
     
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    The shells provide evidence of an ancient sea – the Western Interior Seaway – that existed in what is now America’s Heartland. Referring to an exploration of the California desert in 1776, Father Pedro Font wrote:

    “I have come to surmise that in olden times the sea spread over all the land, and in some of the great recessions which histories tell us about, it left these salty and sandy wastes uncovered Indeed one finds on the way many piles of oyster shells, mixed with earth and half buried, and other shells and maritime signs. It is not possible that people should have made such mountains of shells by carrying them from the sea so far a distance merely to bury them in piles.”

    ShellReefsign2.jpg https://www.desertusa.com/desert-california/seashells-in-desert.html

    The massive limestone blocks of the Egyptian pyramids contain abundant fossil shells, most of them still beautifully intact, according to a recent mineralogical analysis.1

    At the Great Pyramid of Khufu (Cheops), the fossil shells constitute ‘a proportion of up to 40% of the whole building stone rock’, explained Professor Ioannis Liritzis and his colleagues from the University of the Aegean and the University of Athens. The fossils were predominately nummulites (coin-shaped coiled fossils of shelled protozoa), but sand dollars, starfish and sea urchins were also detected.
    http://creation.com/pyramids-seashells
     
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    That is evidence of plate tectonics, not a biblical flood!

    Flooding leaves sedimentary beds. There is no evidence of sedimentary beds all dating to the same age across the entire earth that would be there if there had a flood as described in the bible.
     
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    Yowsa. And dinosaurs lived in the same 'hood as god created humans.

    Truly amazing evidence ya got there.
     
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    Don't confuse him with actual relevant evidence. He operates on "religious faith" aka wishful thinking.
     
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    Geologists see it in the rocks, etc. Look it up yourself.
     
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    no such evidence supports a biblical flood
     
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    No, geologists DON"T see any such evidence in rocks!

    That evidence would have to be WORLDWIDE sedimentary deposits which are left behind by floods all dating to the same time period. There is no such evidence ergo there was no flood as described by the bible.
     
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    No, no geologist would ever claim they can see a global flood in the rocks... because there is NO global footprint of flood sediment. Why do you make things up? You know that's lying and Christians are not supposed to lie.
     
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    So, you are saying that Jews should still be stoning everyone and offering blood sacrifices?
     
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    And more important there would be zero plants left if this event happened and a massive sea life die off during such an event, but we have known trees older than the supposed Flood event.



    PANDO the Creationists and Flood Supporters Worst Nightmare!
     
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    Wow .. that tree is older than the Biblical flood.. The pyramids are also older than Noah's flood.
     
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    And PANDO is the oldest life form on the planet and the largest, it is fire proof but its unlikely to have survived a global flood crushing all life at the bottom of those waters so its healthy existance defies religious claims and supports the beauty of evolution and the natural process of development of such extraordinary life forms such as these.
     
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    The Bible is either wonderful or terrible didactic literature and has a great deal to teach us.. Its not science or history and was never intended as such. When a person tries to treat it as science and history it just demeans the writing and makes a mockery of it.
     
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    So we agree its a book of fairytales so why is it so worshipped, Aesop's Fables which I own the whole collection of and shared with my niece and now my grand nephew the wonderful moral tales but its stories with a moral to learn and largely positive the Bible is largely negative.

    And many do believe it all and similar books literally around a quarter of people in the USA according to Gallup Polls that is still a lot of Americans who scare the crap out of me these people tend to be the older ones in power who run things and make decisions. Its a smaller group polling the younger adult but still in the high teen percentages that again a lot of people.
     
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    The fact that so many take it LITERALLY is astounding.
    The fact that many believe it fell from a great printing press in the sky as the word of god is also astounding.
    It was written by people as a moral compass.
    I liken it to those who worship the constitution - which the founding fathers intended to be revised with time - as chiseled in stone.
     
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    I too have Aesop's Fables and the Uncle Remus stories. .. and love them. Many of the Bible stories are quite terrible.. I don't really know the answer to your question except to suggest that religion has ALWAYS been political and about political power.
     
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    Geology tells us that the Biblical global flood did not happen... as does archaeology, history and science in general.
     
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    If you follow a religion, then you follow all of it.

    Jews do not "stone everyone". Judaism (and Islam) are theocracies, violation of certain laws results in the death penalty which is sometimes carried out through stoning. Under Judaism, only people who are "citizens" of the jewish theocracy fall under those rules. If you voluntarily agree to obey those laws, then you know what you are getting into and agree to the consequences.

    Today, there is no actual Jewish state implementing the Jewish law. Israel is a nation for Jews, it is not a nation implementing the Jewish Law.

    Jews cannot perform the sacrifices (one, the grain sacrifice, is not an animal sacrifice) because they can only be performed in the Temple or the Tabernacle, neither exists today.
     
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    A primary purpose of the biblical stories is to teach complete and total obedience. They illustrate the positive and negative consequences.
     
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    Like God killing Onan for not getting his dead brother's wife pregnant?
     
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    All of the biblical stories are based upon the Ten Commandments found in Exodus 34:10-28. All of the stories teach blind obedience, whether it's Abraham sacrificng his son, Moses killing three thousand people for wanting freedom of religion, King Saul for showing mercy despite being told to kill everyone, or Jesus cursing people for not obeying him. The rule is to obey, regardless of what you're told to do.

    How do you know it's God who's telling you what to do? It could just be a voice in your head or someone (who's an angel) who knocks on your door and tells you to go do something. In other words, maybe you're just a lunatic but if you get the idea to do something it must be God who's telling you to do it because God works in mysterious ways. The writers left that part out but obey, however you got the idea or who you got the idea from. It's silly but then so is the fairy tale.
     
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    No question that it very hard.to believe
     
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    It's easy to believe if you don't examine it and if you phrase it in certain terms. That's why it has persistent for so long. And remember, people are basically stupid. For instance, consider faith healers who put on big shows at churches. If they were for real why aren't they healing sick people in hospitals or in their homes?
     
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