The Bible is a Book of Fairy Tales

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  1. maat

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    There are countless sins that get one stoned, such as picking up wood on the sabbath, having sex before marriage and being a disobedient child. And btw, despite the bible 2.0, you worship this mythical monster.
     
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    Why?

    And, on another point, speak for yourself, not others.
     
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    Some people are just poor students:
     
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    We have no scientific evidence of consciousness, do we?
     
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    Your comment makes little sense. If a person claims to be a member of a particular group (religion, political, business, etc) then they subscribe to the beliefs and objectives of that group. If you don't like islam, then don't be a muslim. If you don't like the US Chamber of Commerce, then don't join it. Its asinine to claim to be a member of a group and imply you follow its platform when you do not.
     
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    Do you have evidence to back this up? The flood was so long ago how can you be 100% sure it never happened?
     
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    If it was a localized or regional event it likely did happen in some form, if its a global flood the fact we have a living tree root ecosystem 80,000 years old and is the largest and oldest life form on our planet is dead proof a flood of such a depth would have killed ALL plant life on the biosphere including this remarkable specimen.
     
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    There is physical evidence of glaciation.

    There is no evidence whatsoever for your alleged flood of biblical proportions.

    As far as your inane deflection goes I will resist the temptation.
     
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    The flood has to have occurred during a period that humans were around to observe it and recall it afterwards. There is zero evidence of any such global flooding during the last 100,000 years.
     
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    The Flood was in 2900 BC.. The Pyramids are older. Ancient cities and cultures were not affected .
     
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    Quaking aspens?
     
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    What I am saying is that the great flood that inspired Gilgamesh and the Noah story was a big flood in the Euphrates River Basin in 2900 BC.
     
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    But American Indians such as the Lakota also have flood lore tales. They're universal.
     
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    Of course they do. And they were all memorable local floods but there never was any Global Flood. Imagine if you lived in South Carolina in the Bronze Age and experienced Hurricane Hugo? LOL..
     
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    Yup ... As the last ice age ended some 12000 years ago the water levels began to rise. Since many civilizations tend have large numbers who group along the coast, these experienced local flooding - many towns/cities were submerged.

    This is why almost every culture had a flood story.

    This is a far cry from some Global flood that killed all but Noah and kin. If this had happened we would not have all these other stories.
     
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    The flood was not that long ago. The Bible timeline puts the flood at roughly 2100-2300 BC.

    1) We have continuous civilization all over the world through that time period (Egypt, Mesopotamia, China, India, Africa, North America, Australia, Europe and so on). If some flood would have wiped these civilizations out the language would end, art would end, culture would end, pottery style, skeletal structure, DNA and so on. When new people came they would be different from the people there before.

    This is not what happens. These cultures were not wiped out - they carry on happily through this time period.

    2) In the midwest and similar regions around the world, you should be able to dig a few meters down an find the global flood layer. This is not rocket science - it is simple as pie. When an area is flooded, by the ocean, for any length of time you have many things that happen. The soil characteristics and chemistry changes in a definable sea shells and sea creatures inhabit the seabed. When this dries up these things get left behind. This layer would be clear as day, even to a novice. It simply does not exist.

    3) We have ice cores that go back over 800,000 years. If there was a global flood some 4000 years ago these would not exist. These cores are dated by layers - like a tree ring. Every year a new layer forms and you can count the years. We can date these cores by numerous dating methods which corroborate the timeline.

    4) we have coral reefs that go back a couple of hundred thousand years. They can tell you what the temperature was at a certain date by the change in chemistry of the reef layers. (this perhaps does not refute the flood but it sure as heck refutes the -"earth was created 6000 years ago" narrative)

    5) There is not enough water on the earth to flood the whole earth to the point where the mountains are covered.

    6) There was not enough room in the boat for all the animals.

    7) How would Noah and 3 son's manage to collect two animals from all over the world ? How did they get 2 polar bears from the Arctic, 2 kangaroos from Australia and 2 Spectacled Bears from South America ?

    How long would it take to collect 2 Polar bears (at least a few years). Who takes care of the animals while Noah is out collecting. By the time he gets 20 species (2 years per species = 40 years) The one's initially collected have already died !

    I can go on and on. There was no Global Flood as depicted in the Bible where all were killed but Noah and kin. It just did not happen. If you get a genetic test done they can tell you what percentage of Neanderthal DNA you have. We do not all trace back to some person living 4000 years ago. Modern Genetics tells us that this is simply not true.
     
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    Noah's flood = the zombie that just won't die.
     
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    LOLOL..That too was a local flood. Egypt, China, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the Levant were never flooded. Its a children's story for the Bronze age.
     
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    Come on, you know it was all done with magic. They just showed up and hibernated on the boat. And, god cupped the boat in his hand so that it would not sink. This is all simple science.
     
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    Who do you suppose wrote the account of the flood?
     
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    The Sumerians.........

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    Since mortal humans wrote this, is there any possibility that they wrote according to their understanding? Did they know that most of the world they had never been to even existed?
     
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    Bingo! You see the Euphrates River Basin with the Tigris running south to the east?
     
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    Indeed- then after the Great flood God intentionally removed all traces of the flood so that future generations would not believe the flood story and doubt the existence of YHWH on this basis; as God's real agenda is to trick humans so he can condemn them to everlasting hell.
     
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