The Bible says abortion is NOT murder.

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  1. FoxHastings

    FoxHastings Well-Known Member

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    FoxHastings said:
    :roflol:Ya, right....Christians never have sex outside of marriage !???...PUH-lease!

    BTW, married women have abortions :)

    OF COURSE abortion are carried out for convenience!!

    WTF else would a woman have an abortion?????

    It is INconvenient to have a kid you do not want and/or cannot afford.

    It is inconvenient to put one's body through the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth.

    It is inconvenient to lose your job because you became pregnant.

    It is inconvenient to risk one's life and health being pregnant and delivering a baby.

    It is inconveneient to ruin your life through an unwanted pregnancy.


    NOW, show where your god said you must do everything as inconveniently as possible.

    Show where the Seven Deadly Sins or the Ten Commandments say convenience is a sin.






    NO, we all should NOT agree in something that isn't true.

    It is up to women to decide what is detrimental to THEIR health NOT YOU.


    PREGNANCY and child birth can be very detrimental to women....should we ban those things???






    Show me what parts of my post weren't facts....please do :) For instance is this untrue ? :

    "" It is up to women to decide what is detrimental to THEIR health NOT YOU.""

    Were the statements too INCONVENIENT to address?



    Ya, when you vilify the feminist movement and think women's health is in YOUR hands that looks to me like misogyny.

    When one insists women who have abortions "sleep around" that's smacks of misogyny since it's not true and clearly meant to demean women who have a legal medical procedure.








    It is INconvenient to have a kid you do not want and/or cannot afford.

    It is inconvenient to put one's body through the trauma of pregnancy and childbirth.

    It is inconvenient to lose your job because you became pregnant.

    It is inconvenient to risk one's life and health being pregnant and delivering a baby.

    It is inconveneient to ruin your life through an unwanted pregnancy.

    None of these are facts, they are statements/opinions.

    I would apply the same rules to men who sleep around regarding sexual health. You again, assumed that I was specifically talking about women. That's 0/3 now.

    You come across as very irrational and emotional. I find separating emotion and critical thinking works well and leads to a better conclusion (That's an opinion, just in case you confuse it with a fact)[/QUOTE]


    So you can't address or refute what I wrote so I',m emotiona and irrational l ...surrrre...
     
  2. James Knapp

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    I’ll bite but I already answered this before you made these statements.

    Every single one of those arguments can be fixed by my suggestion of education, not sleeping around and being sexually healthy and sensible. It applies to men and women. If you know you’re not in a position to have or don’t want children, you know that sex can lead to that so either abstain, be sterilised or use the correct precautions. It's silly to have sex, become pregnant and then somehow blame someone or something else for ruining your life and making it inconvenient. The result was bought about by that individuals chosen actions.

    I base my opinions on people who I see and know. A lot of women have been convinced that having multiple sexual partners is somehow liberating. It's a road that has lead to the morning after pill, abortions galore, loneliness and childless women who later regret their choices. You assumed that I was a main of faith when I'm not but I see the dangers of Nihilism, and this is one of them.
     
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    Or have a legal operation called an abortion.

    NO one is obligated to use BC, have an operation, or quit having sex.....




    What!!? Women aren't "blaming" anyone when they have an abortion....what ARE you talking about???


    So what? Should people be punished for every action they take? Why?



    So WOMEN should have only as much sex as YOU think they should ?

    Having multiple sex partners is whatever individual women want it to be.

    I love the emotional "abortions galore"
     
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  4. James Knapp

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    There's the irrationality again. What's with all the capital letters and exclamation marks?

    I didn't say any of what you're accusing me of. Your reading apprehension is incredibly weak.
     
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    :) Ya, surrrre, it's "irrational" because you can't address or answer it...;) Again you can't point out the irrationality nor disprove my facts nor answer those INCONVENIENT questions...

    Your ability to respond rationally is weak...
     
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    What facts? List them out and ask direct questions and I’ll happily answer anything my friend.
     
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    All that I have never at any point stated.

    What is your recommendation to women. An abortion every month?
     
  8. FoxHastings

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    They already were laid out several times as you bobbed and weaved around them.....they must've been INCONVENIENT ;)
     
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    If needed.
     
  10. James Knapp

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    Nice dodge. Have a wonderful evening!
     
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    ...and I'm sure you know what a dodge is since you dodged all those INCONVENIENT questions and facts :)


    BTW , it isn't MY dodge since I have posted my questions and comments several times giving you ample opportunity to respond....I think we know who dodged :)
     
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    Honestly, do you even remember the questions you asked? All complete puffery and hyperbole. If you look back, read what I said, then look at your response, you’ll see the irrationality that I was talking about.
     
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    Spoken like a good extremist. Yes I think a woman should get an abortion every month. What makes you ask anything so ridiculous?
     
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    If you are opposed to a woman having reproductive freedom then you are stating that she should be forced to breed against her will if she wants an abortion
     
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    Yes. Why do you ask?

    Why are you trying to forget them :)



    Which, of course, you didn't prove were puffery and hyperbole in FACT you posted :"
    """"James Knapp said:
    What facts? List them out and ask direct questions and I’ll happily answer anything my friend.""""

    So you didn't rally mean that....




    No, you never proved anything I posted was irrational ….you didn't address pertinent INCONVENIENT questions at all...




    ...and I'm sure you know what a dodge is since you dodged all those INCONVENIENT questions and facts :)


    BTW , it isn't MY dodge since I have posted my questions and comments several times giving you ample opportunity to respond....I think we know who dodged :)
     
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    Um, I never said, suggested or implied that a zygote is a sentient being. If you cannot distinguish between a zygote and a sentient being, then perhaps you'll want to study the issue further.

    You can start by enrolling in a Zoology class at your local university.
     
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    Why zoology ??
     
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    When someone is accidentally killed we call that manslaughter, not murder. You seem to have been confused on that point.

    Interesting you had no problem with a spell being cast, but felt a miscarriage was similar to murder. This logic probably allows you to speed in between posted speed limit signs huh? :lol:
     
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    They are living beings by biological definition. They naturally progress to being born, unless you kill them.
     
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    But a fetus is NOT a legal person...until it progresses to birth, then it is a legal person.

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    Good thing you can kill them then
     
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    Sentient beings are not aborted, unless it is necessary .I’m on my way to my local college to take a course.
     
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    No they are not living beings..they are POTENTIAL living beings
     
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    Women are animals lol
     
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    :) Ya, I see that poster hasn't been back to answer my question....maybe too embarrassed? ;)
     

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