The Bible says abortion is NOT murder.

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  1. Whaler17

    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps it just colors your thinking and shields you from seeing what is actually there. This is the killing of another human being, not popping a pimple.
     
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    Santa knew me before I was born too, that’s why I got so many presents Christmas Day
    Sounds to me like you are the one who doesn’t understand the word logic
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    And if it is “unplanted” it doesn’t develop
     
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    Renee Well-Known Member

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    If you insist on personifying it that’s your issue. Why don’t you call a little little puppy you can get more emotional mileage
     
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    Whaler17 Well-Known Member

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    Nope, even scientists have been forced to admit this world shows ample evidence of having been created and not just the result of random coincidences.
    Ostrich your life away if you want to, but.....


    https://www.biznews.com/thought-lea...how-science-now-supports-the-existence-of-god
     
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    He/ she is developing for 25 years, beginning at conception!!!!
     
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    Not me, federal law and everyone capable of thinking about it in any depth.
     
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    Renee said:
    And if it is “unplanted” it doesn’t develop



    If she/he is unplanted she/he does NOT develop at all...
     
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    Not true, only develops to a certain point. Next.
     
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    Bible seems fine with that

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    What?

    If it is not implanted it dies. Usually found on a sanitary napkin or are you suggesting that we keep those in case there might be fertilised egg?
     
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    But it is what is in the bible
     
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    Doesn't matter what the bible says. It is morally wrong to kill a being whose heart is beating. And left to term would be a viable baby.
     
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    So...this scientist was immoral?
     
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    Then look at all those "" immoral people"" who killed "" beings whose hearts were beating"" in war......do you think they all were immoral?

    Is this where you say, ""well, that's different" ???
     
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    It may be developing but it isn’t developed

    And if not left to term would never be a viable baby. Again if an acorn has one root starting it doesn’t make it a tree.
     
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    That is positively opinion.


    The right to live a life.

    That has nothing to do with rights. It has to do with nature. It is how we reproduce as a species.

    So don't call it a right since it isn't a right. Call it nature.

    Pointless question.

    No question about that. Our reproductive system can be hard on women. But it is the way nature designed it. My guess is that it relates to natural selection. That is just a guess.

    A born person wouldn't be in a womb in a helpless state. I've never heard of a toddler being charged with a crime. Toddlers are innocent and helpless just like an unborn one.



    I answered this already. Don't call it a right. Call it nature.

    Round and round she goes.

    You can have opinions but I cannot? Feel free to address the "facts" I provided.


    Your passionate fear of the consequences of childbirth is emotional and nature doesn't deal with emotion. So it really is an illogical opinion. The issue boils down to one single issue - the humanity of a fetus. You don't view it as a human being and I do. All opinion.
     
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    War itself is immoral so every action involved in war is immoral. That means the answer to your question is yes.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    There are bad laws but laws that protect women's right to their own bodies are GOOD laws.

    That is POSITIVELY good!!!







    I am not surprised that you think laws protecting women's right to their own bodies are bad laws.





    Fine, IF they do NOT infringe on anyone else's life...



    No, women are humans and not , as you seem to think, livestock meant for breeding.
    Women have NO obligation to reproduce.

    "It has to do with nature" ? What TF does that mean?

    Nature does all kinds of stuff and humans can battle it , change it, and stay safe from it..


    WHAT! You can't change human rights by calling it "nature" How ridiculous.

    Do you actually believe that if a person needs a blood transfusion or a new heart they can FORCE you to give them yours??? You call that "nature".????


    Pointless ? NO, you just couldn't answer it :)
    Try again ?
    Did you want the fetus to have the right to harm another when no one else has that right?






    "OUR" reproductibve sytem? NO, women's reproductive system. And yes it can be hard on women and since they committed no crime they shouldn't be punished with FORCED bodily pain and injury


    Is your god and ruler this "nature" thing....where are "natures" laws? Carved in stone? No, open to YOUR interpretation of how you want things to be.

    I NEVER SAID THEY WERE. Are you being deliberately obtuse?

    IF a BORN person cause the TYPE of damage a fetus causes they would be charged with assault...that is a very simple sentence..


    I never did either so why TF are you brining it up??????




    NO, you NEVER answered : ""ALL pregnancies carry the risk of death....NO one has the right to FORCE another person to risk their life for them."

    So you think people have a right to FORCE another person to risk their life for them ...because it's nature???? WTF!!!!



    It wouldn't go round and round IF you could address:

    ALL pregnancies carry the risk of death....NO one has the right to FORCE another person to risk their life for them.

    But you couldn't because it's true :)


    But you didn't...just some inanities about this "nature " who you use to attempt to control women and silly things about toddlers....








    I NEVER said I was afraid of the consequences of childbirth....see, instead of brining up a fact YOU chose to make something up...as you have done all along.

    That was a load of gibberish but the law also does not view a fetus as A human being with rights....and that's why they get aborted :)
     
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    So everyone who has fought in a war is immoral and all women who have abortions are immoral...that sure doesn't leave an ever-so-moral person like you much company...:)
     
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    "Morality" is an inherently subjective concept and pointless when discussing societal issues. I find your morality to be immoral.
     
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    None of that is actual biblical language.

    Yawn!
     
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    Which version?
     

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