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    You think those kids are con men.
    BTW, one is a woman.
    and the black topped mountain is not a volcano.
     
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    If I can ever get back on my PC I will show you clearly that they are liars or fools.
     
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    crisis actors huh.
     
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    You do understand that the Arabian desert was once a paradise of lush greenery, meadows and full of people. Around 5000 years ago climate change brought about the gradual decline into desert - again. The fact that the rock had signs of water erosion 2 millennia later is not unusual. The Arabian and Sinai desert are all part of the Sahara desert. The only thing that splits the three are the Nile and the Red Sea. Deep below the Arabian desert there is reckoned to be about 50 years of water used at the same pace as today.

    I didn't say the Hebrew slaves in Babylonia knew of the Exodus. They made it up. They had no origins. The farthest back they could actually trace their history was about 350 years. The Babylonians could trace their history back much further - why not the Hebrews? So they took old myths and stories - creation and flood - and built a history for themselves. They knew some ancient history, places, events from the past and wrote a family story (Abraham, Isaac, Jacob etc) around them. To fill in the time the Hebrews were put in Egypt for 400 years, and for good measure they suffered and escaped with gods help. To give them some authority they 'conquer' Palestine. Of course there is no evidence of their violent invasion.
     
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    Margot is right. The earth was once covered with volcanos and the Middle East had its fair share. Your Blacktopped mountain may not be a volcano now. 100,000 years ago?
     
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    It pays to read the fairy tale if you want to discuss it.

    Deuteronomy 33:17 (KJV) = His glory is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they are the thousands of Manasseh.

    Psalm 22:21(KJV) = Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.

    Isaiah 34:7 (KJV) = And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.
     
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    It's not volcanic, it would be recognized.
    The point I was bring out is that the video seems to mesh with the early biblical teachings.
    II don't for a moment believe in the God aspect. but Judism, like all religions has it's origins, and many point to things we do not understand.
     
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    Actually it's been more than 10,000 years ago since Arabia was a savanna and the geology of KSA is well studied because of aramco. ..... And yes the Exodus is an epic myth.
     
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    I agree it is a myth, but my point is that this might be where the story started from, there are too many similarities, only a person following the trail would find.
    and here we have 2 separate parties following the biblical trail, and finding the same info.
    To much for coincidence.
    Something major happened there, like many origins of events, in many religions, that can only be explained, only as some God did it.
    I am a believer in an advanced society in our past, and I believe many events that are translated as religious, were simply something that cannot be explained by their limited knowledge.
     
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    Muslims also believe in Moses, but it's a lie that they sneaked into Arabia or that the Al said is hiding some truth.
     
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    The Muslims in the area call it the mountain of Moses.

    any you don't know what happened.
    You can't call any of this a lie.
    It is speculation.


    And Muslims didn't get their Moses Information from their own history,
    They got it from Judio/Christian text.
     
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    Didn't they destroy Mohammed's house?
     
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    Do you think that a scrawny ibex fits the biblical description of an unicorn? If anything the writer was describing a rhino.
    Your understanding of the biblical fairy tale is about a 1 on a scale of a 100.
     
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    There is no record of Muhammeds House, or even Muhammed for over 100 years.
    Some of his wives houses are mentioned.
    One was on the second floor.
    Muhammed died in Ashias arms, in her house,
    And was buried under her bed.
     
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    To accommodate over 1million pilgrims a year.
     
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    There is no record of Muhammeds house.
    They do have an old section, you can even see it on google earth, but not as old as the religion.
     
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    It doesn't mean "unicorn" in the modern day meaning of a mythical creature. "Unicorn" is just the word that was used in translating from the Greek and Hebrew.
     
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    Why is that?
     
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    I am making a counter claim to your claim. And you have failed to back up your claim. And you failed to respond the rest of my post. That is most telling.
     
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    Yes, this is for @The Wyrd of Gawd. You beat me to it. I was just checking to see what they meant by it.
     
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    10 extinct volcanos in the UK. Would you recognise them as volcanos?.

    Judaism has its origins in Babylon. However, the stories the scribes wrote are woven around places and events from earlier into which they weave the Abrahamic family. An historical novel.

    Your quote about ancient advanced society is interesting. There are aspects of 'mythology' in places as far apart as South America and Japan which are so similar that one wonders. Descriptions of 'beings' almost identical. 'Flying machines' etc. Who knows?
     
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    We have proof of advanced societies all over the planet, however most people refuse to believe what is plainly, right there before their eyes. Easier to ignore it and move on.


    " And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the LORD descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace, and the whole mount quaked greatly...."
    .......EXODUS 19:18



    We have a few clips of advanced tech, (Aliens) in the Judio/Christian text.
    We have volumes of it in Indian text.
    Most, if not all, religions relate to advanced societies,
    even interbreeding with humans.

    A reason why I think the Moses story came from there.
    Too many coincidences.
     
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    LiveOakOkie1 month ago (edited)
    Totally debunked scammers. They stole this info from Ron Wyatt, who discovered Jebel al Lawz in 1984, returned there again in 1985 with David Fasold. Larry Williams admits this in his book, but states Ron "stumbled across" the site in 1985 with Fasold (yeah, after he was already there by himself in 1984 and was returning). Even if he had (which he didn't), Ron was there before these two, and Larry got the detailed info of where to find this place from Fasold (which he also admits in his book). Cornuke tries to say they found it themselves. You can tell these two are liars just looking at their faces when they talk. Despicable! I hope any money they made off their fraudulent claims turns to stone in their bellies when they see the handwriting on the wall to condemn them. "Epic myth has become burning truth..." Yeah, there's going to be some burning truth. Believe that.
     
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    So are the family, and the two kids, crisis actors.
    How do you account for the bitter springs,
    The crossing point which would be shallower 3500 years ago, the water erosion.
    And then the multiple cross references, to the written docs.
     
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    Yes, they got the story from Jews...they believe and revere all the patriarchs.
     
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