The Big Lie is (unfortunately) winning

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  1. Pants

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    Dems stripped out Election Safeguards in 2020, doing tremendous damage to confidence in our elections. But, with several states restoring election safeguards to ensure that it's Easy to Vote, but Hard to Cheat, we should see much more trustworthy election results in the next round of elections.

    A CNN poll asked Americans, "In general, how confident are you that elections in America today reflect the will of the people?"
    Americans aren't buying Demented Joe's "election".

    Americans soundly reject Demented Joe and the most ridiculous of the Left's Big Lie that election safeguards are a return to the Jim Crow Democrats.

    "A plurality of people -- 45% -- said" "The rules around voting are not strict enough to prevent illegal votes from being cast."

    They want more election security.

    "Only 36% chose the alternative of" "The rules around voting make it too difficult for eligible citizens who want to vote to cast a ballot."

    We want Easy to Vote but Hard to Cheat.

    November is Coming!
     
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    The 2020 election was rigged. Biden's vote count is as real as the COVID death count, in which cancer patients and people dying from motorcycle accidents were counted as COVID deaths. Trump has only run for president twice--and I thoroughly believe he won twice--whereas Biden has been running for the last 30 years, not making it past the Democrat primaries. And I am supposed to believe in the year in which basic voter integrity laws were washed away; in the year in which absentee voting was implemented on a widespread scale, which increases voter fraud; in the year in which we had an election season as opposed to an election day, Biden, this senile loser, who never made it past the Democrat primaries (never, until 2020, even coming close to it), gets more votes than any other presidential nominee in US history?

    Yeah, right. And if you believe that, I got a bridge to sell you in Brooklyn.

    Furthermore, in 2021, when Republicans were reimplementing the basic voter integrity laws nullified in 2020 under the pretext of COVID and implemented previously nonexisting voter integrity laws, such as having an ID to prove who you are, Democrats called it racist. Biden called it worse than Jim Crow, calling it, in his senile way, Jim Eagle. Democrats referred to voter integrity laws as voter suppression laws, since they're not about having an election with integrity, safeguarding democracy. The Washington Post foreshadowed the 2020 election when it came up with its motto "democracy dies in the darkness," for it did in 2020.

    We need a thorough special counsel investigation into the 2020 election. Now!
     
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    THE DANGEROUS MIND OF DONALD TRUMP

    Stolen, me arse.

    USA Today: Fact check: No evidence of 8 million 'excess' Biden votes from 2020 election

    Excerpt:
    All of which has had one specific effect. Upon an individual called Donald Trump, a very sick man who thinks he had the presidency stolen from him.

    This gentleman by the way is the object of several perceptional studies of Psychological Behaviour which finds him to be a really-sick-in-the-head person.

    See here such a study: Open Democracy - The dangerous psychology of Donald Trump (1 November 2020)

    Excerpt:
     
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    THE TRUTH HURTS

    The above and all the rest is perfidious Junk Posturing as regards the Biden/Trump electoral vote.

    People like you are living in a delirious world that sustains the notion that Donald Trump is not a seriously sick individual.

    Of course, there are a good many ladies who have said otherwise:

    Trump sexual assault allegations: How many women have accused the president?
    The 26 women who have accused Trump of sexual misconduct

    And from the Scientific American: The ‘Shared Psychosis’ of Donald Trump and His Loyalists
    Excerpt:
    So, if you wish to persist in your wrongheadedness that is nobody's business but yours ...
     
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    WASHINGTON — Calling former President Donald J. Trump “a cancer for the country,” Representative Anthony Gonzalez, Republican of Ohio, said in an interview on Thursday that he would not run for re-election in 2022, ceding his seat after just two terms in Congress rather than compete against a Trump-backed primary opponent.

    Mr. Gonzalez is the first, but perhaps not the last, of the 10 House Republicans who voted to impeach Mr. Trump after the Jan. 6 Capitol riot to retire rather than face ferocious primaries next year in a party still in thrall to the former president.

    The congressman, who has two young children, emphasized that he was leaving in large part because of family considerations and the difficulties that come with living between two cities. But he made clear that the strain had only grown worse since his impeachment vote, after which he was deluged with threats and feared for the safety of his wife and children.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/16/us/politics/anthony-gonzalez-ohio-trump.html

    It began during the campaign when Trump exhorted his rally crowds to use physical violence against protesters. Now members of The Following making threats of violence against those who dare to challenge Dear Leader has become commonplace. Scores of election officials around the country have had deaths threats made against them. Many have resigned, as has Gonzalez. One could say Trumpery has become thuggery.
     
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    What was the Orange Messiah's reaction to Gonzalez deciding not to run again at least in part due to threats of physical violence and concern for his family's safety? 1 down, 9 to go......making a reference to Repubs who voted to impeach him.
     
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    WAKEY, WAKEY!

    Oh, did he now? Really?

    He arranged an external meeting pointedly in walking distance to the Congressional building with his "followers" and after provoking them he went back to the White House. Whilst they marched off to a short 20 minute-walk to the Congressional building.

    Just WHO do you think you are fooling? (Because the answer is apparent.)

    Quoting Trump from here. Transcript of Trump’s speech at rally before US Capitol riot
    Subtle provocation with a Big Lie. He LOST the vote by a considerable margin and was incapable of admitting it! (51.3% vs 46.8% popular-vote, 306 vs 232 in the EC)


    Furthermore, he prompted the crowd to walk to the Congressional offices Quote below from here: Timeline: How the storming of the U.S. Capitol unfolded on Jan. 6


    Wakey, wakey ... !
     
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    Trump said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." (1) Assuming that all of the people who attended that speech would march peacefully and patriotically does not in any way come close to the standard of inciting a riot.

    Anyway, I think we're off topic here, and I don't feel like responding to all your off-topic silliness. The 2020 presidential election was absolutely, positively rigged. As for it being stolen, you want evidence? Sure, I'll give you evidence. There was a widespread implementation of absentee voting, and absentee voting leads to more voter fraud (3). Therefore, there is a probability of widespread voter fraud, considering the widespread implementation thereof. As for proof thereof? Well, it's an impossible task to try to gather proof of widespread fraud in less than two months, which the Trump campaign only had, considering the in-depth analysis required to prove voter fraud. (4) That's why there should be a special counsel investigation into the 2020 election.

    Had the 2020 election had the same voter integrity laws as the 2016 election without the widespread implementation of absentee voting, without an election season, then I would just say, "Hey, didn't work out this time." And I would move on. But it still would have been rigged, with, for example, Twitter censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story. In fact, did you know that about 10% of Biden voters said they would not have voted for Biden had they known about the corruption that the mainstream press purposely failed to cover? (2) But had, generally speaking, the 2020 election had the same voter-integrity measures as the 2016 election, and Biden still won, I would have been irritated, for sure, but I would have gotten over it.

    But, again, this election was different as far as voter integrity; it's not the same as 2016. And saying otherwise is either borne out of ignorance or an attempt to gaslight.


    1. https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/ma...cle_55cba5b1-b564-55df-9e25-fa9fbdd3b27b.html
    2. https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_a...known-about-hunter-biden-scandal_3592344.html

    3. https://electionlab.mit.edu/research/voting-mail-and-absentee-voting

    4. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443864204577621732936167586
     
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    That answer sounds a lot like this:













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    Lucifer, it's the truth, man. It's the facts, Jack.

    In fact, it was so eloquent, so great, so epic, I think it deserves an encore.

    Trump said, "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard." (1) Assuming that all of the people who attended that speech would march peacefully and patriotically does not in any way come close to the standard of inciting a riot.

    Anyway, I think we're off topic here, and I don't feel like responding to all your off-topic silliness. The 2020 presidential election was absolutely, positively rigged. As for it being stolen, you want evidence? Sure, I'll give you evidence. There was a widespread implementation of absentee voting, and absentee voting leads to more voter fraud (3). Therefore, there is a probability of widespread voter fraud, considering the widespread implementation thereof. As for proof thereof? Well, it's an impossible task to try to gather proof of widespread fraud in less than two months, which the Trump campaign only had, considering the in-depth analysis required to prove voter fraud. (4) That's why there should be a special counsel investigation into the 2020 election.

    Had the 2020 election had the same voter integrity laws as the 2016 election without the widespread implementation of absentee voting, without an election season, then I would just say, "Hey, didn't work out this time." And I would move on. But it still would have been rigged, with, for example, Twitter censoring the Hunter Biden laptop story. In fact, did you know that about 10% of Biden voters said they would not have voted for Biden had they known about the corruption that the mainstream press purposely failed to cover? (2) But had, generally speaking, the 2020 election had the same voter-integrity measures as the 2016 election, and Biden still won, I would have been irritated, for sure, but I would have gotten over it.

    But, again, this election was different as far as voter integrity; it's not the same as 2016. And saying otherwise is either borne out of ignorance or an attempt to gaslight.

    1. https://www.stltoday.com/opinion/ma...cle_55cba5b1-b564-55df-9e25-fa9fbdd3b27b.html
    2. https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_a...known-about-hunter-biden-scandal_3592344.html
    3. https://electionlab.mit.edu/research/voting-mail-and-absentee-voting
    4. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443864204577621732936167586
     
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    Why can't trump lose?
     
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    So how much do you get paid for this?
     
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    RID ITSELF OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE!


    What it shows is that he knew very well what could happen - and that is what DID HAPPEN! A murderous riot for which he will be tried in a court of law!

    Period! Enough of your meaningless tirades trying to excuse the Worst PotUS that American-voters in the majority DID NOT WANT AND DID NOT VOTE INTO RENEWAL OF OFFICE!


    I don't blame you. We are both wasting-words on a worthless individual who was never ever elected by the popular-vote - a mistake that America has made continuously since its inception because it will NOT RID ITSELF OF THE ELECTORAL COLLEGE THAT IS UNNECESSARY TO ELECT A POTUS ... !

    PS: Countries other than the US that employ an EC to elect the head of state:
     
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    So, "they" should go to court.

    Voting information is NOT "personal" and therefore in the public domain.

    That is, "voting" not "voter" information, which indeed IS personal - so it all depends upon "who wants what and why?"...
     
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    Donald Dork is NEVER "off topic"! Never ... he's a bumbling fool who is sick in the head!

    Just ask the multitude of women who publicly denounced him for rape ... !
     
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    LIES, LIES, LIES?

    From here: It’s Official: The Election Was Secure

    Excerpt:
    Get informed before lying in a debate-forum ... !!!!
     
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    Here's the thing, we know that you guys will not stop until you get the result that you want, no amount of proof or evidence will satisfy you.
     
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    What proof or evidence is on your side? You all are simply standing on lack thereof, as the Trump campaign had less than two months to prove widespread fraud, which is an impossibly absurd proposition. Because the Trump campaign could not do the impossible, you all take that as proof or evidence that the election was 100% legitimate. No matter how much your side may bloviate, trying to gaslight the American people, the 2020 election was in the dark. Like I said before, had it been conducted like the 2016 presidential election, with the same voter integrity laws, including those limiting absentee voting, and Biden had still won, I would have been irritated, but I would have gotten over it, and I would conclude that Biden is the legitimate president. But as it stands, I don't honestly believe he is a legitimate president. I think the electors elected him, yes; but I don't believe the people did, considering the shadowy circumstances that enveloped that election and the context outside thereof, such as the fact that he has been running for president for the last 30 years, never making it past the Democrat primaries, until last year, and then, even though Trump got more votes than presidential nominees prior, Biden gets even more, getting, for example, 15 million more votes than Obama did in 2012. Yeah, f---ng right.
     
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    Well I guess Democrats are going to have to figure out a way to navigate that. I said taste of their own medicine will do them well.
     
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    50 State gov's all certified their election as legit.
    No one has ever offered proof of a stolen election, it is still, the big lie.
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    Stop whining.
     
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    Two things:

    1. When you say "big lie," you are quoting Hitler. So if you wish to not be anti-Semitic, you might want to stop using that phrase, which was used against Jews.
    2. The Trump campaign was given less than 2 months to prove widespread fraud. Considering, for example, that there was a widespread implementation of absentee voting, which would logically result in widespread fraud, considering that there is more fraud with absentee voting than in-person voting, there is a probability of widespread fraud. But to prove widespread fraud is another thing altogether, considering the in-depth analysis required to prove it. (1) It would take well over two months to prove widespread fraud. Those claiming otherwise are flat-out lying.

    1. https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB10000872396390443864204577621732936167586
     
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    Why can't trump lose?
     
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    He can lose; I just think he lost that election, considering the circumstances in which he supposedly lost.
     
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