The Biggest Take Away from the Transcript Release - A Real Smoking Gun

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  1. Esperance

    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Didn't expect much in the way of a smoking gun.

    UNTIL...

    I read the part of the transcript that alluded to the possibility of AG William Barr getting his hands on the Crowdstrike server.

    Talk about several top Democrats, especially in the Senate, sweating bullets over the implications of that happening. Not to mention several top deep state bureaucrats who would be totally exposed.

    The implications are mind boggling.
     
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    Jestsayin Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    What does Pelosi and Pandora's box have in common?
     
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    Oh really?

    How about Trump asking for this "favor" right after Zelensky mentioning Javelin missiles
     
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    All that will come of this is a nice cozy prison term for the Biden's. Justice!
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No quid pro quo

    The US has been selling the Ukraine arms, including Javelin Missiles, all along.

    The US, AKA Bill Clinton, talked the Ukraine out of keeping a few of the former Soviet nuclear weapons within its borders.
    Five of those same nuclear weapons ended up in Iraq while Sadam was in power.
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Biden will probably skate. But the Crowdstrike server part of this situation could mean some serious jail time for Senator Mark Warner and a few others.

    This part of it is also probably making Hillary quite stressed. If Crowdstrike execs were to admit all that they were involved in, many of the top DNC leaders that were active during the 2016 election would likely end up wearing orange jump suits.
     
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    Crowdstrike is a US computer security company that was hired by the DNC to investigate the hacking of the Clinton Campaign's e mails. I am confused here. What has that got to do with the Ukraine? If an investigation is necessary why can't it be done by our own Justice Department why should it be done by the Ukrains?
     
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    I want to see the transcripts from the other calls as the whistle blowers said multiple calls, so if this is the best of them all, even it doesn't look good, what do the others look like

    for now we just need to wait for congress to get the report and get the whistle-blower in front of them for questioning
     
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    We run on facts not assumptions. Trump had to explicitly say you do this I give that to get republican Senators on board and that didn't happen
     
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    Yep that's what I want too to hear from and about the whistle blower.... It'd be a shame if the whistle blower has obvious political ties and no reason to be listening in to the presidents phone calls
     
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    Esperance Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It was discovered that Crowdstrike was one of the third party contract companies that were being allowed illegal access into the NSA data banks during the Obama years. The Democrats were using Crowdstrike to spy on whomever.
    The server that Crowdstrike used to do this was located in the Ukraine.

    Admiral Rogers brought this up and it was looked at by a judge and a ruling was rendered during May of 2017 identifying significant corruption. The mainstream media covered most of the story up.

    The stuff that is on that server is enough to destroy the Democrat Party as we know it. That is why this is such a huge smoking gun. Trump specifically mentioned the server.
     
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    You mean the ones Obama never sent when he allowed Ukraine to be invaded by Russia?
     
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    Absolutely.

    Let's go back to 2008 with them.
     
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    The wet dream that people who claim the Biden's are guilty will be cause a flood of Biblical proportions.
     
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    Serious question, does anyone on the right of the political spectrum have ability to stay on topic?

    Immature, disgusting, shallow.

    Attacks, innuendo, lies.

    Engage the facts.
     
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    the whistle-blower did not report any calls back in 2008, Trump wasn't even President then
     
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    In the interest of transparency we must find out how far this goes back.

    I mean Trump could have been colluding as far back as then.

    Innocent people would welcome such an investigation.

    All government contacts with Ukraine for the last 12 years should be heavily analyzed for conspiracies.
     
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    What Obama failed to do was support Ukraine after Russia invaded. Then after the invasion and takeover of the Crimea Obama refused to send lethal weapons claiming that it would expand the war. Hell Russia already expanded the war. You cannot say that Obama let Russia in are.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    sure we could find a lot more bad deeds if had Trump calls from way back then too, but not realistic

    we have enough, this was just the straw that broke the camels back

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    Of course Obama let them in.

    He didn't do anything to stop it, did he?
     
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    What? You don't want to get to the bottom of the Ukraine's involvement in our government? This is about impeaching Trump?

    Who'da thunk it.
     
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    republican senators will not be on board regardless, most dems will just be happy with the house impeaching and then voting him out of office in 2020
     
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    sure I do.... if Biden had done that as VP, impeach him - but that doesn't let Trump off the hook
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    Well if he explicitly said you do this I'll give that maybe but not with this now. Here's the shoe were waiting to drop though the whistle blower because that info could damage Democrats immensely
     
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    Serious question, when has overly generalizing a group of people ever get a serious response?
     
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