The Brexit Party

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  1. cerberus

    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Don't vote Brexit 'to send a message', vote Brexit so we can get our country back, and Farage is the only politician who can do it. And more importantly wants to do it?? In other words, it's now or never?
     
  2. Mandelus

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    Not that I am interested in your answer really ... but where is Farage sitting as politician in moment again, getting a lot of wage for it, eh?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually when I think about it - we're not having to vote for the Brexit Party to take our country back from a
    bunch of bloody foreigners, we're having to vote for it to stop OUR OWN POLITICIANS from allowing the foreigners to keep our country. Is that effing bizarre or what?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Just poke out of our affairs and mind your own business.
     
  5. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Sure ... except the Farage, who calls the EU as an enemy of the UK and wants to Brexit, sits well in the EU Parliament and every year as a member of the European Parliament, a basic compensation (= basic salary) of around 85,000 to 86,000 GBP collected, plus others Compensation and allowances.
    A member of the UK Parliament, if the source (Times) is right, collects around £ 62,000 + more compensation and allowances!

    So whose business is it ... and why isn't Farage in the British Parliament, eh?
     
  6. The Rhetoric of Life

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    EU calls Trump its enemy.
     
  7. Mandelus

    Mandelus Well-Known Member

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    Sure ... because he is due to his actions and bullcrap statements against the EU. Do you really believe that the EU loves someone who still told that EU must be eleminated before he won elections? Really?

    There is a saying my country which fits very well.

    "As it sounds into the cave, it comes back as an echo from the cave!"
     
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    Not enemy, Idiot.
     
  9. Montegriffo

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    Because he can't get elected.
    He's tried 7 times now and never come close.
    He's a joke candidate for a joke party.
     
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    https://www.independent.co.uk/voice...le-east-world-superpower-russia-a8072096.html
    Only EU seem to hate Trump.

    Maybe the EU are in the wrong?

    What do the majority of EU countries do?
    Piggy back on America in NATO.
    Have regulations stopping America from selling in Europe.
    Hate nationalism and patriotism.
    Act like an undemocratic bloc.
    Even before Trump took office the EU took offense to President Elect Trump.
     
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  11. The Rhetoric of Life

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    If the EU was perfect, there would be no Brexit.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Any more trolling from you and you'll be on my ignore list before you get your next pay cheque from Brussels!
     
  13. Mandelus

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    Lol ... and your pay cheque from Farage was how high again?
    I mean, you make really a good "Dr. Goebbels" like job in defending this Chief Liar and his lies ... a good payment for you is justified!

    But no worries ... put me on your ignore list ... I give a crap about it. When you are not able to fdefend your position with facts buit only with such a written bullcrap as quoted against me, then it is really wasted time to handle your trolling!
     
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    Lol .... I get a laugh! Where have you dug out this bullcrap please?

    Anyway ... The fact is that the only friends who have remained for the US since Trump in the world are those countries and regimes that are military / economic / political / financially attached to the umbilical cord of Washington ... and so can't afford, Trump and to contradict his bullcrap and lies!

    Nice ...
    Tell me, how high is your pay cheque vrom the White House that you spread such lies again and again in full ignorance of facts, realities and truth?
     
  15. The Scotsman

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    :applause:...that's about right!
     
  16. Montegriffo

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    No system is perfect.
    The real question is whether the UK is better off in the EU or outside it.
    In or out of the EU we remain Europeans and they will remain our largest trading partner.
    What you need to ask yourselves is whether or not making trade with our greatest trading partners more difficult is a good idea or not.
     
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    Why in 2019 do we need to be geographically close to our trading partners?
    Everyone knows Europe is backwards when it comes to democracy/women's rights and racism/religious bigotry and a history of Communism and Nazis and Fascism.

    Shouldn't trade be between countries who are friends instead of 'countries who are not in the hope that they will be'?

    The UK must draw a line in the sand on its ideals and beliefs when seeking close trading partners, must it not?
    The Americans have what we British have in our Magna Carta, in their Bill or Rights. What do countries in Europe have? Rights of the majority, persecution of the minority, and hostility towards America.

    I'm suggesting the UK gets itself a new trading partner to be close with, and to Hell with the EU Parliament if the EU Parliament wants to take Russian territories in the Ukraine, block American products in Europe, and treat the UK like a state of itself instead of like the country that the UK is.

    It was Merkel who suggested the EU must act like a bloc in these negotiations. Perhaps she was wrong.
     
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  18. The Scotsman

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    Why does it have to be difficult?
    actually the real question is whether the EU will entrench or modernise
     
  19. Montegriffo

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    To reduce transportation costs and food miles.
    Also to ensure high standards of safety, animal welfare, workers rights etc.
    There is no demand for bleached chickens or growth hormone laden beef (which contravene our laws).
     
  20. Montegriffo

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    It doesn't have to be difficult. We could stay in the single market and allow free movement of goods, labour, money and services.
    The real question is do we wish to retain our influence over the organisation which regulates trade throughout the continent we inhabit or should we give up that influence and have no say in future policy.
     
  21. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Well, surely you must see how Europeans and Africans and Asians are smaller than Americans and Australians?
    How those in the United States and Australia aren't dying but thriving, no?
    What put you up to hate bleached egg shells and hormone beef?
    Think about it; why does natural = better?
     
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    It's not just egg shells which get bleached. Rather than taking measures to reduce salmonella in their chicken populations like the UK did post Edwina Curry some countries just bleach the meat.
    Growth hormones in meat have led to young boys developing breasts and other side effects.
    Most people would not voluntarily add bleach to their food or ingest growth hormones.
     
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    Surely we can do that outside? Why does it have to be difficult?
     
  24. Montegriffo

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    Well yes, we could accept May's deal and stay in the single market but leave the EU.
    Problem is there are too many MPs refusing to back it because of their own agendas. Corbyn wanting to force a general election and leading Tories wanting May's job etc.
    It's time to put the deal to the British people since Parliament has let us down so badly.
     
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    I don't understand what the issue is with the politicians, these are not insurmountable.....we just maintain in the "single market" trade status....after all its just a bilateral economic status....the nuts and bolts we already do so we can reproduce bilaterally the existing trading relationships that the EU has with its partners, even though they cannot, by agreement, be formally concluded until we leave the single market. On the matter of product standards we can simply incorporate existing EU regulations into British Law and, in the case new ones, simply adopt them on the principle of mutual recognition.
    I do question the EU's stance on the role of the City and do not understand their insisting on the breaking up of such a purported excess concentration of power in the city by depriving London of passporting rights and stripping it piecemeal of key lines of business...its non-sense especially when wall street is resurgent....its madness....
     

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