The Brexit Party

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  1. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Well-Known Member

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    Yes, the infamous deal.
    The only deal available since the EU commanded the UK must negotiate this deal before negotiating any future trade agreement.

    No deal has passed, how much money is Extensions costing the NHS?
     
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  2. Montegriffo

    Montegriffo Well-Known Member

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    How much money would a no deal Brexit cost the UK economy?
     
  3. The Rhetoric of Life

    The Rhetoric of Life Well-Known Member

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    WTO if no deal, however, extensions of 'only deal on the table' is money that could be spent on other things.
    Why would the UK accept the EU's deal?
    Extensions are meaningless really.

    What about post EU deals after the EU and Theresa May stop beating this dead horse? What of those?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    She won't resign, nor does she need to, because she has friends in high places who are depending upon some kind of 'deal', no matter how tenuous, to remain in. Once the UK has MEPs elected and installed in Brussels, there's no way we will leave unless there's an emergency (such as the bankruptcy of the UK which I mentioned yesterday) that only the EU can save us from: all that the traitors need to do is to keep repeating 'jobs will be lost unless the EU bails us out' and Brexit will become a thing of the past and forgotten about.
     
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    Perfectly wrong view of things!

    #1
    A "No Deal" is no real option ... even several of these Brexit Clowns tell otherwise and want to have. But this has to do with it, that these people have no knowledge at all and loss any sense for realities anf facts, as it was several times proven!

    #2
    The British had set themselves the departure date, where many already got big eyes, because quite unrealistic with a view to the realities and facts.
    But OK ... you still had a good 2 years to make a mutually acceptable deal with the EU for the Brexit!
    This time, you Brits have totally blasted with intent and stupidity! On the one hand, you send total idiots as negotiators, who are stupid as a tree and declaredly do not want a deal! On the other hand, these idiots came up with the wildest and most outrageous Cherry Picking demands ... certainly also deliberate demands with intention to prevent a deal ... until then, the chief idiot Boris should do it, who has less brain mass under his ridiculous hairstyle than a jellyfish!

    # 3
    Then at the last second a deal is negotiated that of course many Brexit people do not like ... especially the idiots who want a "No Deal brexit". This has crashed crashing in your parliament.
    So a "no deal" then? No ... it gets even crazier!

    - no political majority for the deal
    - no political majority for a "no deal"
    - no political majority for new elections
    - no political convenience for a second referendum
    - no political majority to postpone Brexit

    Conclusion:
    Where is any fault of the EU here?
    The only ones who are 100% responsible for the current situation are the British!
    For nothing, but absolutely nothing at all, you have a majority ... with which you can tell the EU how you want Brexit! You, the British are in the EU's duty to say how you want Brexit now, but you British are failing miserably here! You say "No" to the deal, but you also say "No" to a "no deal." Sorry, what's up now?

    P.S.
    And why should the EU hurt itself in the Brexit that it does not want, or get hurt by the British?
     
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  6. The Rhetoric of Life

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    The reality is, no deal is an option.
    The fault lies with Theresa May and The EU for acting like the one deal on the table is the only option.
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually didn't they vote out a no-deal option?
     
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    cerberus Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I think they did rule out a no-deal option in one of those House 'meaningful vote' sessions. I think Caroline Flint moved it?
     
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    Wrong! It is maybe and of course an option, but it has no majority .... as has nothing has any majority in the UK for the Brexit!

    The EU expects only a clear message from the UK about "we accept the deal" or "We do not accept and make a no deal Brexit".
    But there comes only a "No" for the deal and a "No" for a no deal too ... so no and no!

    Where is here any guilt of the EU please, when the UK must simply and only say we want this with a majority and then it will happen? Full and only guilt of the UK is here given!

    And even at May, who sticks of course on the negotiated deal has not a real guilt, Her deal got a no on parliament and the alternative "no deal" gots also a "no" in parliament!

    So ... what do you Brits want with a majority please? We want to know this in the EU ... and not further what you don't want.
     
  10. The Rhetoric of Life

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    The EU should be guilty of Imperialism, blaming Nationalism on its troubles when Hitler was Imperialist.

    The way the EU and company talk about Nationalism is reason enough to feel guilty.


    The EU wants a world with one world government, which is the opposite of Freedom.
    We should want more countries turning to Nationalism.
     
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    Ehm ... the topic is Brexit ... not what the EU does in your opinion all bad etc. and the difference to your political point of view. I respect your opinion, but I do not share and agree at all with it ... as we still have often enough discussed it out!

    Again: At Brexit situation, the EU is not guilty at all .... all is only to be blamed to the UK for their incompetence to say the EU with a political majority wether "we accept the deal" or "we will leave with no deal".
     
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    money?....not sure you can frame it like that but...whatever....maybe ask that same question about 5-10 years after brexit (if it ever happens).....
     
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    Yes it was voted on and won.
    A no deal Brexit is currently not possible.
     
  14. The Rhetoric of Life

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    Not according to the EU who stated the UK can vote for what it wants but it's up to the EU to sign off on anything, so the UK voting against no deal doesn't stop the EU saying no deal.
     
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    Nope the EU can not prevent the UK from leaving without a deal.
    The UK parliament voted against a Brexit without a deal.

    You need to get your facts straight, for once.
     
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    The EU doesn't have to reach a deal all because the UK voted against one.
    The UK voting against no deal doesn't mean the EU has to accept this.
    If the EU doesn't want a deal the UK will vote for, it will be no deal, whatever the UK voted for.
     
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    The UK and the EU have to treat each other like separate countries now with WTO, and I'm fine with that when I see the EU parliament and the 4 freedoms denying the fundamental freedom to say no.
    Self determination has to be better than being in a bloc.
     
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    What a surprise - the traitors have ensured that the gate will now always be open to them into the European parliament. There's really gonna be a public backlash to this, I'd bet on it.
     
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    I'd give anything to know what your role in this is, Mandelus. All I am sure of is that you're operating in some capacity for Brussels as an anti-Brexit wonk. Am I right, or am I right?
     
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    Says Farage's useful idiot.
     
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    What do you think The Brexit Party is?
     
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    Who is that for?
     
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    Another desparate attempt to return to the spotlight?
     
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    They live in a fantasy world
     
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