The Capitalist System Is Decaying Because Of Its Own Contradictions

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  1. Reiver

    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    You show no economic coherent comment. You might as well be blowing bubbles and hoping to catch a fly.
     
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    so it is not coherent when you you learn that Bernie, a communist , endorsed Hillary rather than Friedman or Reagan? Why not embrace your libcommieism?
     
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    Reiver Well-Known Member

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    More bubble blowing!
     
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    Bernie is an open communist and Hillary accepted his endorsement. What does that teach you?
     
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    Bernie is a social democrat. Your ranting only reinforces your innocence of basic political economy.
     
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    of course thats what he says in freedom loving America.


    "You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country," Sanders told John Harwood
    exactly that is a key NaziMarxist economic idea. Avoid wasteful duplication in marketing manufacturing distribution advertising etc by having one state deodorant and one state car. This is why when I rented a car in Hungary in 1985 it had a dip stick rather than a gas gauge and a gravity fed carburetor so that you had to back it up hills to keep the gas flowing, and why 120 million humans slowly starved to death in the USSR and Red China!. Liberals simply lack the IQ to understand how capitalism works.




    actually he says openly he's a socialist!!While attending the University of Chicago, Sanders joined the Young People’s Socialist League, the youth wing of the Socialist Party USA. He also organized for a communist front, the United Packinghouse Workers Union, which at the time was under investigation by the House Committee on Un-American Activities.

    After graduating with a political science degree, Sanders moved to Vermont, where he headed the American People’s History Society, an organ for Marxist propaganda. There, he produced a glowing documentary on the life of socialist revolutionary Eugene Debs, who was jailed for espionage during the Red Scare and hailed by the Bolsheviks as “America’s greatest Marxist.”



    n 1985, he traveled to Managua to celebrate the rise to power of the Marxist-Leninist Sandinista government. He called it a “heroic revolution.” Undermining anti-communist US policy, Sanders denounced the Reagan administration’s backing of the Contra rebels in a letter to the Sandinistas.

    Sanders: General Electric, good example. General Electric was created in this country by American workers and American consumers....

    Huh? Thomas Edison had nothing to do with it? J.P. Morgan had nothing to do with it? This is Marxist magical thinking,



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    hen, in 1989, as the West was on the verge of winning the Cold War, Sanders addressed the national conference of the US Peace Council — a known front for the Communist Party USA, whose members swore an oath not only to the Soviet Union but to “the triumph of Soviet power in the US.”

    Today, Sanders wants to bring what he admired in the USSR, Cuba, Nicaragua and other communist states to America.

    For starters, he proposes completely nationalizing our health care system and putting private health insurance and drug companies “out of business.” He also wants to break up “big banks” and control the energy industry, while providing “free” college tuition, a “living wage” and guaranteed homeownership and jobs through massive public works projects. Price tag: $18 trillion.

    While a Senator only Obama voted to left of Sanders

    Sanders, 73, has been preaching socialism for nearly half a century, and he cites Eugene Debs, the five-time presidential candidate of the Socialist Party of America, as his hero. But he hasn’t always embraced the label.

    “I myself don’t use the word socialism,” he said in 1976 in the Vermont Cynic, a student publication at the University of Vermont,


    Sanders: General Electric, good example. General Electric was created in this country by American workers and American consumers....

    Huh? Thomas Edison had nothing to do with it? J.P. Morgan had nothing to do with it? This is Marxist magical thinking,



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    It began for him when he joined the Young People’s Socialist League while a student at the University of Chicago, from which he graduated in 1964. What was the mission of the Young People’s Socialist League?

    It was spelled out in the preamble to its constitution: “The Young People’s Socialist League of America calls upon all young people who are interested in the emancipation of the working class from the chains of wage slavery to join its rank and through it and its associated organizations of the International Socialist Movement, to work for the overthrow of the present capitalist system in all its social and economic ramifications, and for the establishment in its stead of a worldwide socialistic cooperative commonwealth.


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    Sanders called Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega “an impressive guy,” with “deep convictions.” He then accused the Reagan administration of poisoning public perception of the tyrannical regime

    Read more: http://thelibertarianrepublic.com/bernie-sanders-is-a-communist-sympathizer/#ixzz4VyVG5RgP
    Follow us: @TheLibRepublic on TwitterSanders called Sandinista leader Daniel Ortega “an impressive guy,” with “deep convictions.” He then accused the Reagan administration of poisoning public perception of the tyrannical regime.

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    That's the reality. In most European countries he would be a centrist. That you don't realise that only shows your innocence over political economy. What is more important is that the centrists actually used your type of ignorance to argue that your country had to go for the likes of the tainted Hillary. Essentially innocence of what was going on then gave the US and the world the stupidity of Trump. Ignorance out-trumps innocence no less.
     
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    if you have evidence I don't realize it I will pay you $10,000. Bet? Do you know what a straw man is?
     
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    disorganized mess of a post. Why not cut the BS and defend socialism. Why so afraid to even try.
     
  10. bringiton

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    Just exactly what I did say: that capitalists and socialists embrace the same error of conflating natural resources with products of labor, though for opposite reasons.
    No, I don't do absurd, anti-scientific nonsense.
    No. But I suspect you are trying to change the subject.
    I did. You just don't want to address it.
     
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    Privilege cannot be freely bought and sold any more than slaves can.
     
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    Correct.

    Now, what about the guy who sold land or other natural resources that neither he nor any previous owner made, hmmmm? What happened to everyone else's liberty right to use what he sold?
    It wasn't.
    No. In fact, I don't see what it has to do with liberalism.
    Not for you, obviously.
     
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    I obviously did. That's why I pointed out that capitalists and socialists are united in conflating natural resources and products of labor. Socialists pretend capital is land to justify stealing capital; capitalists pretend land is capital to justify stealing land.
     
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    Totally absurd liberal gibberish capitalists would go to jail for stealing land so what they do is buy it when they want it. Very hard to believe that you didn’t know that
     
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    'Capitalism' was never a system. It's a lot like 'Libertarianism', in that it's just made up by those espousing it as they go along, inventing hand waves to explain away any of the discrepancies from the propaganda claims.
     
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    So, why do big businesses routinely use 'imminent domain' seizures? Why do they rely on 'limited liability' protections, which is merely a scam?
     
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    Governments invoke eminent domain, not corporations.
     
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    Actually eminent domain is used in order to pay for property. It seems you got another one backwards
     
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    Why is limited liability a scam. You clean for God to say. It is a great thing because it allows people to invest their money and not be liable for more than their investment. Investment equals gross And growth is a good thing. Again, hard to believe you did not know that but then again you are a typical America hating liberal.
     
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    Is it a propaganda Claim to see that Chyna ended or eliminated 40% of all the planets poverty the instant it switch to Republican capitalism?
     
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    What about him??? People sell stuff every day that they didn’t make like Amazon for example so what???
     
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    You just repeated your nonsensical comment and told us that's all you're prepared to say. Strange tactic. I was hoping for at least some quality "Georgism is better than those commies" ranting. Instead, nothing but a damp squib
     
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    error?? They let the free market and and free people decide the price for each rather than a libNazi govt which would have no idea whatsoever of relative values..
     
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    Fact.
    Not if they were legally entitled to steal it, as they are under capitalism. Just like slave owners didn't go to jail for assaulting, robbing, raping and torturing their slaves: they were legally entitled to do it.
    Just as slave owners bought slaves when they wanted to legally assault, rob, rape and torture.
    Very easy to believe you think that stealing, assaulting, robbing, raping and torturing isn't stealing, assaulting, robbing, raping and torturing if you are legally entitled to do it.
     
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    Garbage. People whose rights to liberty have been removed by force and made into other people's private property without just compensation are not free, sorry. And a market where such people have to pay full market value just for permission to exercise their liberty rights to sustain their own lives and those of their families is not a free market, sorry.
    A decision under duress is not free.
    Classic doublethink. Orwell would be proud of you.
    What is the value of a glass of water, if someone else owns your right to drink it?
     

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