The carnage of the slow cancer of Islam

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  1. Pipette8

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    http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2014/05/the_greatest_murder_machine_in_history.html

    It is no wonder Hitler, admired Islam for the fighting machine that it was. The religion of peace has killed more 250,000,000 people throughout its history. In fact, more people have been killed in the name of Islam than all the people killed by Christians, and by totalitarians combined.

    The Islamic conquest of India is supposed to have killed 80,000,000 people. In the conquest of Northern African and the Sudan it is supposed that 110,000,000 blacks were killed with 28 million blacks taken as slaves. Islamic Java was the biggest exporters of slaves in the 16th century. Aside from the 28,000,000 black slaves, there were at least 1,000,000 European slaves. Sexual slavery was common with the women taken as sex slaves, while the men were castrated or killed. The 'mulatto' children born to the sexual slaves were killed.

    No one knows for sure how many Buddhists were killed en masse in Tibet; and then there are the 1.5 million Christian Armenians that were killed in Turkey.

    Let's not forget that at least 125,000,000 women have suffered through female genital mutilation. While the men are circumcised, the women to endure the barbaric practice of FGM.

    Who were the real imperialists? The 'greatest' imperialists in history were the Muslims who spread, and are still spreading, their religion around the world. From its beginnings on the Arabian Peninsula, Islam eventually spread to northern Arabia, into Syria and Palestine. Then it conquered Egypt; and from there went into North African. Then on to Spain, Iraq, Nigeria, and further into North and Central Africa. Their imperialism then took them India, Asian, to Turkey, and now they have a foothold in Europe, a growing one in America, and in places like Australia. Their conquests have never been peaceful.
     
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    I don't know that I would call Islam a "cancer." Islam is around 600 years younger than Christianity. If we look at Christianity 600 years ago it was spreading rapidly through the world too. Christians were persecuting those who didn't follow them, shunning women, killing Muslims. I don't want to let Islam off the hook because it does have a violent element, but I think in a few hundred years it will evolve into a more peaceful religion, like modern day Christianity.
     
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    How dare you say Islam is not peaceful! I kill you!
     
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    It would be ironic if you were actually Christian, and not Islamic.
     
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    I want to see American feminists wife swap with Saudi women. Would make a great reality TV show.
     
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    Islam is a hate filled religion founded on conquest. Not a thing has changed since its inception. In other words, don't hold your breath.
     
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    I disagree. There have been times in Islamic history where they have been more progressive and peaceful than some Christians today. You can't say a whole religion is hateful based upon a certain sect of it. It would be like saying all Christians are bad, because the southern baptist preacher burned a Muslim bible and said lets go kill all Muslims. The Muslims I know are more loving than many of the two faced Christians I have met. They have no dreams of conquest, but only to practice their religion in our free country. What you see is the Muslim countries controlled by dictators who use the religion to control their peoples into doing what they see fit. It isn't the religion that is bad, but the leaders who contort the religion to fit their needs.
     
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    I disagree. There have been times in Islamic history where they have been more progressive and peaceful than some Christians today. You can't say a whole religion is hateful based upon a certain sect of it. It would be like saying all Christians are bad, because the southern baptist preacher burned a Muslim bible and said lets go kill all Muslims. The Muslims I know are more loving than many of the two faced Christians I have met. They have no dreams of conquest, but only to practice their religion in our free country. What you see is the Muslim countries controlled by dictators who use the religion to control their peoples into doing what they see fit. It isn't the religion that is bad, but the leaders who contort the religion to fit their needs.
     
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    No, that analysis doesn't work. Christianity did not have the ability to have nuclear weapons to use to force conversions or death nor ever have the ability to take the human race to extinction.
     
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    Practicing their religion in our free country is attractive to them because it will make it easier for them to subvert our culture and force everyone to become Muslim or dhimmis.
     
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    The world would be a far better place without any bloody religions. Having said that though, if the OP assertion that Islam has killed 250,000,000 is correct, it has certainly been doing its bit toward keeping the global population down through the ages? I mean, imagine what the world population would be today if all the 'deceased' had lived and procreated? :eekeyes: So I guess that 'religion' does have an upside.
     
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    Wow, this is the strangest justification of the Islam plague that I've ever herd.
    One of the reasons people have many children is the fear of disappearing, dying off. Having 7-8 children makes sure at least some of them will reach an age to form their own families and procreate.
    It's like the pension system - after introducing it, people didn't fear that there would be nobody taking care of them at old age and actually started to have less children.
    In other words, the fear of Islam was probably driving people to have more children, not less.
    The crimes and abominations of Islam are what should bother you. And yes, the world would have been a much better place without it.
     
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    I wasn't saying what I said as a justification, only that it was a useful means of controlling the global population, and exemplified why. Those in the region have an average of 7 children anyway, but it has nothing to do with religion per se, it's a cultural thing. Actually I'm not sure I understand where you're coming from, especially when the final sentence seems to chime with the main thrust of my post.
     
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    IMO Islam has always needed war to rid itself of the negative effects of its tendency toward incestuous inbreeding, which produces many incapable offspring that are otherwise a lifelong burden on their societies.

    Iran and Iraq took turns warring against each other for years, sending idealistic young men out in the desert to charge each other, with most of them dying, of course. The US thought this was horrible and stupidly was instrumental in breaking the pattern up.
     
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    Christians are by no means squeaky clean. Today it's not about conquest, but the sick priests they protect. Still, in the grand scheme of things I'm much more interested in a religion that is spreading violence all over the world. The thing is we can continue to fight them in their homeland for the next hundred years while they takeover our countries, or we can get out of their **** hole countries and protect our homeland. Part of that protection includes not letting them in. Now I know that's unfair to the good Muslims, but the reality is, they could be just as guilty as the known actors. There's no way to differentiate the two. Remember part of their practice is to befriend and lie to their enemy until such time as they can overthrow them. Is that a risk we're willing to take given the condition of European countries who thought it a good idea to let them flood their lands.
     
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    I don't know if you are Christian or not, but what I was taught in church was to love thy neighbor. The problem with not allowing any muslims in is that we are sentencing them to death and allowing the bad ones to propagate their hatred. If the refugees stay in their country ISIS and other extremist groups will kill them. Then who is left to fight against them? We certainly can't without trying to eradicate a whole population of people. Even then, Islam is an idea not a person. One does not stop an idea by shutting down boarders, and showing hatred. Doing this only feeds the propaganda machines used by the bad Muslims to convince their followers they are right. Showing love, piece, and compassion is the way to fight an idea of hate. For example, Ghandi and Martin Luther King Jr. both were persecuted for their differing ideas yet they showed the world peace and the people who hated them couldn't stand up and say they were bad people. Malcom X on the other hand and The Black Panthers used force and violence which only riled up those who opposed them. The same thing is now happening with the refugees. Every time we demean the entire Muslim faith we further the goals of the radical Islams because they can use that and convert good people into people fighting for what they think is a good cause. Every time we don't let a good Muslim into the country, we take a chance of having one less voice telling the faith not to take up arms against us.

    I understand your fear of bad Muslims getting into the country, but I am telling you that they get into this country using the Internet and phone lines not by physically being here. They convert scared misunderstood people into soldiers, by using post like these where Islam is described as the worst to say, "these people hate you and us, so we should kill them." How many people who have come into this country as refugees have actually killed american citizens compared to how many American born people have been turned to take up arms by propaganda made by people like you. You are a big part of the problem, and until we realize the bigger scope of the issue, we will be doomed to allow Muslim propagandist to succeed in their missions. All this being said I have met hundreds of Muslims both native born and from the middle east and most of them are still my friends. NEVER once have they tried to convert me to their religion. Never once have they said anything negative about america. Never once have they ever done anything to hurt anyone. Most of them come here for better opportunities just like you and I. America is a country of opportunity and promise. Don't let the 0.5% of Islam that is bad skew your view on the 99.5% who just want a better life free of persecution.

    To sum everything up, think about the bigger picture and do as Jesus said to do and care for you neighbor too, not just you and your family.
     
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    Well it's certainly more than .5% of Islam that are bad people. A recent poll of Muslims showed a shocking number of people would fight for Islam and even more while not partaking in the war on Western culture are sympathetic to the caliphate. I do not wish to gamble on who is good, bad or indifferent to what they see as a holy war.

    As for doing the Christian thing, it also says an eye for an eye in the bible. You see, Christians have evolved, Muslims, not so much. You can be as nice as you want, but the snake will continue to bite you if you don't give it what it wants.
     
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    If you give Islamic Turkey full credit for the genocide of Armenian Christians in the early 1900's then you have to give them the grand award for genocide. Sorry Hitler you didn't try hard enough.
     
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    I say we don't make it fight. Let them practice what they believe and you can practice what you believe to. Amendment I. Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances. I'll be honest I don't really believe in religion, because it is used to justify way to much hate. However, Christianity is under attack from atheist and they are getting very hostile, and would support the church in what ever way they could. Lets just thank God that there are CURRENTLY no Christian religious leaders calling for a holy war. My point is, if something you believe in is under attack by people who don't understand you, you will act out in what ever way you can to defend it-even if that is backing the caliphate. I say the better option in this case is show them we are good people to, and help them put into place a better Caliphate who is not radical.

    You are right the Bible does state an eye for an eye, however, that is in the old testament. When Jesus came he proclaimed to no longer follow the old testament, as he was teaching the new way of God. We no longer sacrifice lambs as was dictated in the Old testament so why should we hold onto the eye for an eye paragraph? Learn the new testament of Love, not the old testament of hate, and power.
     
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    The Constitution doesn't apply to foreigners. Sorry.

    You completely missed my point. I hope that wasn't intentional on your part. I deal with dishonest people in a much different tone. So let's keep it real. The point I was making, as I clearly explained, is that Christians no longer believe in an eye for an eye, whereas Muslims do til this day.

    You aren't going to make them change their ways by being nice to them either. It's a harsh lesson that Europe doesn't seem to understand despite all kinds of discord do to their immigration policies.

    Let me ask you a couple of questions. How do you expect to achieve results by being nice to someone who wants nothing more than to rule you? Is there another kind of being nice that Europe hasn't tried?
     
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    Whereas you see Europe as being overran by the Islamic faith, and in super trouble with them I don't. I think they are doing well in their fight, however, they are at a geographical disadvantage to us as the radicals live much closer.
     
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    Their proximity shouldn't matter. Securing their borders and defending their citizenry should be a top priority, not flooding their countries with unknown people who may or may not be a risk to the sovereignty of their nation.
     
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    At some point human decency is more important. I'm sorry but I just care about others way more than you apparently.
     

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