The carnage of the slow cancer of Islam

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  1. Margot2

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    You glorifying that miserable bunch of pissants now? They can't "command allegiance". Muslims hate them.
     
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    Cite just ONE Post in which I have demonstrated a generalized hatred toward all Jews.

    Meanwhile, my use of the of the word "bigoted" as only a description of the glut of paid, Hasbara Trolls that pollute this & other forums with racist anti Islamic calls for "Eradication" of all Muslims etc.
    Apparently, the term "Hasbara Troll" touched a nerve .

    BTW, calls for the extermination / "Eradication" of any ethnic, religious or national group is a violation of forum rules
     
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    Go away, just go away.
     
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    Muslims from around the world go to Iraq and Syria to join them in the fight. And its not because they hate them
     
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    That's what the trolls say.
     
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    The self styled "caliphate" is a creation of takfiri - true Muslim apostates who are killing their fellow muslims by the thousands (including both sunni and shia although the shia get the short end most often.

    They cannot govern, they cannot do much of anything right now except kill and die and die they will - it is inevitable.

    If you want to point a finger at anyone, I suggest you start with Saudi wahabbism and its export of a truly medieval interpretation of Islam. They planted the seeds of radicalism across the muslim world.

    Seems the "Keep your friends close and your enemies closer" is the very successful MO of Saudi arabia, buttressed by their ocean of oil and the desire of those enemies to get a few million or so barrels of the stuff on a regular basis.
     
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    ISIS has nothing to do with Wahhabi.. They came out of Baathist political beliefs in Iraq.. and Iraqis have never been at all interested in the simplicity of the Wahab beliefs. In fact, Wahhabis make up about 5 million people in all the Gulf States .
     
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    sorry, they did not come out of the secular baathists of Iraq, although a few thousand of the displaced baathist soldiers did eventually wind up with ISIS as they committed atrocity after atrocity.

    They derived their entire religious rational from wahabism including but not limited to who is a muslim and who is an apostate, that the medinan sura supercede the meccan sura in all contradiction.

    I don't really care how many wahhabis there are in the world. They hold the ecumenical keys to Mecca and with the financial muscle of the Saudi regime have exported their militant ideology to every other muslim country. they have funded literally thousands of madrasses where tolerance of infidels, criticism of islam, equality of gender, are all actively and pointedly denounced. But you knew that.
     
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    Assuming you are disputing my first sentence, its simply a fact. Whether trolls would say it, seems irrelevant. Your beloved Saudi Arabia is probably the 2nd largest supplier of foreign ISIS fighters in Iraq and Syria.
     
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    Saudi Arabia passed strict laws with stiff penalties for any Saudis who go to Syria to fight.

    National Progressive Front:
    • Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party.
    • Arab Socialist Movement.
    • Arab Socialist Union Party of Syria.
    • Syrian Communist Party (Khalid Bakdash faction)
    • Syrian Communist Party (Yusuf Faisal faction)
    • Social Democratic Unionists.
    • Socialist Unionists.
    • Democratic Socialist Unionist Party.
    More items...
    List of political parties in Syria - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Syria
     
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    ???? ISIS beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with Baathist, socialist ideology. And Baathism originates from Syria. ISIS are Salafist. Wahhabi is but one strain of salafist beliefs.
     
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    Maybe that's why they are only the 2nd largest suppliers of foreign ISIS fighters.
     
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    Alot of people use the words Salafi, Wahabi, Deobandi interchangeably. Not much Salafy or Wahabi in Syria or Iraq.

    Baathism is from Iraq and Syria..

    National Progressive Front:
    • Arab Socialist Ba'ath Party.
    • Arab Socialist Movement.
    • Arab Socialist Union Party of Syria.
    • Syrian Communist Party (Khalid Bakdash faction)
    • Syrian Communist Party (Yusuf Faisal faction)
    • Social Democratic Unionists.
    • Socialist Unionists.
    • Democratic Socialist Unionist Party.
    More items...
    List of political parties in Syria - Wikipedia
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_Syria
     
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    Let's see your numbers and your proof.
     
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    AND they also show Saudi Arabia to be THE number two supplier of foreign ISIS fighters to Iraq and Syria. Still waiting for your evidence that has convinced you beyond any doubt that this isn't so.
     
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    I fail to see how a list of organizations that are pure poison to the House of Saud supports the notion that not many saudis are represented in the ISIS ranks of foreign fighters.
     
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    I would need more detail about that, if it is true, to even begin to guess. Some do carry lethal recessive genes, so maybe that handles the issue for them.

    Various lines of rabbits and mice have been inbred to the point that the harmful genes have been weeded out, but they have much shorter lifespans the humans so it was easier to do that with them.

    Most human societies have taboos against incest, probably because of the danger of resultant birth defects.
     
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    all Abrahamic religions have had on and off evil periods in history sadly

    religious fanaticism is like a cancer
     
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    Over the past 5 years I have posted and linked numerous articles from Arab newspapers about the Saudi campaign to prevent young men from going to Syria to fight... and to penalize them if they go and return..

    They have stated their reasons that it will make matters worse for the Syrian people. They have interviewed a few young men in prison for having gone to Syria who expressed their disappointment about motives and how they were treated.

    Additionally, the SAG has put in place new systems and rules to prevent charity in the mosques from going to Syria.

    The Saudis are well aware of the blowback of having funded the Muhajidin and Al Qaeda in the US proxy war with the Soviets in Afghanistan.

    I posted the list of Syrian political parties because I had been looking for it.
     
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    I posted a link on Jewish consanguinity from Jewish Encyclopedia earlier.
     
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    Iraqis have NEVER followed Wahhabi doctrine. Its false that Meccan sura are superseded by Medina sura.

    Most Madrassas are Deobandi NOT Wahhabi.

    Wahhabis are NOT militant.. Genders are equal but different.
     
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    Only Islam dictates the form of government and law to be applied. Only Islam commands the believers to "fight", "kill", "slay" and "smite the necks" of the unbelievers "until... religion should only be for Allah"
     
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