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The chilling resemblance between ISIS indoctrination and Eddie Eagle

Discussion in 'Gun Control' started by Galileo, May 12, 2017.

  1. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    If I go to that trouble will you admit you were wrong?
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    How is that a strawman? Currently the only way to access the NICS is if you are an FFL. I, as a private citizen who doesn't have an FFL, cannot access it.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    I wasn't wrong. I had never seen that before, which is what I've claimed. Regardless, if somebody answers an armlist ad, they actually have to physically meet. Criminals don't want to meet strangers who might be ATF agents setting up a sting. That's what surveys have said. Criminals tend to buy from people that they know, not an anonymous person who might be a cop.
     
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    perdidochas Well-Known Member

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    You know little about statistics, then. A 500 person sample is enough to statistically represent the United States as a whole. A 100 person sample is more than enough to determine how Chicago criminals get their guns.
     
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    Of course it is. Polls of a state rarely require more than a couple of hundred responses. A sample size of about 500 is sufficient to survey the entire United States.
     
  6. Vegas giants

    Vegas giants Well-Known Member

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    No it is not. It is laughable. To ask prisoners at the jail if they ever break the law? That is hilarious.
     
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    I have heard this sting argument before. How does it work? I have an ad on armslist. I am contacted by someone and meet them in the parking lot. In my state BY LAW I am not even required to speak to him or ask for any ID. I am not required to ask if they are a felon. I hand him the weapon and he hands me the money. What would you arrest me for?
     
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    And as has been explained already, time and time again, background checks are rendered useless when a straw purchase is involved. That is when someone knowingly purchases a firearm on behalf of a prohibited individual, and later supplies it to them, after having undergone the background check themselves.
     
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    Indeed. And nothing can stop a straw purchase.
     
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    Registration can make it much harder
     
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    How? If I'm a felon, and I ask my girlfriend to buy me a gun how is registration going to make that any harder? It's not. She's going to still buy me the gun I ask for. There is no difference if there's registration or not.
     
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    Now the gun is registered in her name (registration required before sale). If you get caught using a gun in a crime it comes back on her. Why would she risk that?
     
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    Not talking about arresting the seller, but arresting the buyer. The LE is the seller. He can have a hidden camera, and film the transaction. They can then run facial recognition on it, find the buyer and arrest him, if he's not allowed to own a gun. That is why criminals aren't buying from anonymous sources. They buy from people they know.

    https://sanford.duke.edu/articles/c...l-connections-studies-find-prof-philip-j-cook
     
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    She already knows it's a crime. If she currently buys the gun from a gun dealer, the gun gets traced to her as well. She's risking it because she loves him. People are stupid when they are in love, sometimes.
     
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    Again we are not talking about dealers. If she buys it private sale currently it is untraceable.
     
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    Ok. Yeah we need to reduce straw sales thru registration and UBC.
     
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    Indeed.

    Nothing can stop a murder.

    No sense having murder laws.
     
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    the person being arrested would be a felon the minute he touches a firearm. duh
     
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    wow...a stunning example of twisted propaganda...your loathing and self righteous zeal border on obsession
     
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    Ah!

    So you don't know what you are talking about - at least as far as polls are concerned.
    If you are interested in such things, perhaps an adult enrichment class and a stats class,
    stay in long enough to cover sample sizes.

    And target population and Z-score, Standard of Deviation, and your confidence interval.


    Is there any topic you do know something about?
     

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