The Chinese agenda

I would not think that americans would be so foolish to think that because america has a more advanced military they have nothing to fear in a war against china.
Have you forgotten Vietnam? A superpower's military was defeated by an insurgency with vastly inferior weapons and technology at their disposal.
a war with China, Russia, North Korea or any other nation capable of fighting the USA conventionally would be vastly more devastating and take a lot larger toll. the simple fact is that millions will die in such a circumstance. If people think Vietnam or Afghanistan, or Irag are examples of a major conflict. than a war with China will be something else entirely, a world war.
Their strength does not have to be equal for them to win.

 

China can be defeated by any one willing to destroy the Chinese economy.

 

Winning wars is about solid tactics, strategy and outsmarting rather than outfighting your enemy. We won all the battles in Vietnam, yet, still lost the war. "To win a hundred victories in a hundred battles is not the acme of skill..." as Sun Tzu once wrote. Wars are not won on the battlefield or by fancy high tech weapons or the latest greatest technology or overwhelming firepower. Wars are won by people and in the minds of people. It's very common mistake for people to believe that having the biggest guns, latest greatest technology or overwhelming firepower is the way to win wars, but that's not the way to win wars. The way to win is having solid tactics and strategy and outsmarting the enemy rather than outgunning or being more high tech than the enemy. That being said, high tech is nice and having a lot of firepower is nice too, but should only be viewed as icing on the cake nor should these things be viewed as a substitute for good tactics and strategy. There is no substitute for good tactics and strategy. I think that was another mistake we made in Vietnam was we tried to substitute overwhelming firepower and technology for good strategy and tactics and it simply won't work against a competent enemy.

 

Any armed conflict between China and America won't remain localized. It will become total war on a global basis. Neither side will accept defeat.

The wars in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq and Afghanistan were localized conflicts that always occur during the reign of a hegemon. When there is no hegemon total war becomes possible.

 

That was typical political debate.

Now when one side starts to bring out guns and bombs, I might start to worry about that.

 

I think the Debt Ceiling fight introduced something new into the conflict. For the first time in my many years the parties were willing to overtly subordinate what was conventionally thought to be the best interests of the polity to a matter of principle.

 

I agree there would be many nations involved and if a war were to start it would not be China declaring war on the US. They are winning the peace against America and don't want to do anything to change this. The only way I could see a conflict happening is if they underestimated the American response to them annexing Taiwan or going to war with surrounding nations. I see the main nations who China might declare war on in the future as India because of long standing hostility and territorial disputes. Russia because of the vast resources in Siberia and their declining population/power makes them a possible target that they never were in the past. Japan, S. Korea and Australia are other potential targets with Japan and S. Korea being in danger due to their close proximity/past tensions and Australia in danger because of China's growing need for resources and the possible future belief they need to secure and control those resources for China.

 

Good analysis. The only thing I might differ on is Russia. Chinese illegal immigrants are pouring into the Russian Far East. There will be need for China to engage Russia in hostilities. The Russian Far East is being taken over by Chinese in the same way that the American Southwest is being taken over by illegal aliens from Mexico.

Japan and South Korea will have to acquire nuclear weapons if they want to remain independent in the long term.

 

One nation I forgot to mention is Kazakhstan. This could actually be the most likely target as it would give them strategic positioning and easier access to the middle east as well as the soft underbelly of Russia. The terrain there is also more favourable to an invading force than most of their other land borders. It’s certainly easier to reach the mid east through the "stans" than India and the Himalayas anyway. Small populations and defence forces in these nations too but I'm sure Russia would go to war to defend them.

 

The J-10 has more similarities with the Israeli Lavi, than American F-16.

 

The Lavi itself is based on the F-16 but Israel decided it would be cheaper to just buy the real thing from the US than try to replicate it. For China buying the F-16 was not an option, so they picked up where Israel had left off trying to replicate a similar aircraft to the F-16 in the J-10. The J-10 isn't really based on the Lavi, it is more or less the production version of it but with engines produced by China.

Some of the the Lavi's internal weapons, navigation, communications and other technology were based on the U.S. F-16. The Lavi was also powered by an engine supplied by General Electric. (GE) Some major features of the Lavi's airframe also were based on the F-16.

The U.S. later broke with the project after Israel stated its intention to export the plane. U.S. officials believed the Lavi would vie against export models of the F-16.

Israeli plans to develop the Lavi were dumped as a result. But by the 1990s, the Israelis were trying to sell the design for Lavi to the Chinese government, which was developing the J-10.

http://www.globalsecurity.org/org/news/2007/070403-china-export.htm

 

You are sure, yet you mutter so much rubbish. Fortunately, you are not the Chinese president, otherwise you will surely bring disaster to yourself and your people by going headlong into such misadventure.

Taking an analogy, you see a huge truck ahead of you, yet you insist on driving your car towards it, resulting in a terrific head-on collision. Then you must either be drunk or driving with your head in the clouds.

 

Where have I suggested China do anything? I can't imagine anything worse than a war, any war.

 

Start another thread this one is over 500 posts!!