The coming indictment of Donald Trump will break his power: former Obama lawyer

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  1. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    I have little interest in whether Trump escapes indictment and imprisonment.

    I am satisfied with the truth regarding the Loser being exposed in multiple venues after he has desperately tried to conceal it for so long.

    With his mega-donors, rightist propaganda media, white evangelicals, rightist Jewish organizations, and others all dumping the Loser after his establishing his impact on the GOP in 2018, 2020, and 2022, he is being left with only his weird worshipers, his vendetta-spewing grievance jamborees, and lots of red, peaked dunce caps.

    The threat has fizzled. America survived Trumpery.

     
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    CA was paying up to $8 under Biden. We're supposed to feel good because Biden screwed us at the pump for two years and now its slightly lower? Sorry... that dog don't hunt. Why did he ever make it go up so much?
    Yeah... he screwed us. Its impossible to unscrew us. Is he going to give back all our lost income on filling tanks for more than $5/gal? Really?
    "THANK YOU MR BIDEN FOR NOT HITTING US WITH THAT HAMMER ANYMORE... WE ARE SOOO THANKFUL SIR!"
     
  3. dairyair

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    Was?
    But not anymore.

    I am not stupid enough to know Biden had not much of an impact on gas prices at all.

    He can't control the world economy and prices. Surely you know president of USA does not have that power.
     
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    Biden sent gas prices through the roof by raising taxes on oil from wells on federal lands, stopping pipelines, cutting drilling licenses and discouraging fracking. That cut supply. HEN he increased global demand by begging Saudi for oil and begging Venezuela for oil. If you don't see how Biden impacted global oil prices with these actions, then you need to go back and take Econ 101.

    And being happy he's not hitting us in the head with $5-$6 gas at the pump anymore is, again, like being celebrating he isn't hitting us in the head with a ballpeen hammer anymore. I, for one, am still pissed he did it in the first place.
     
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    “Indictment?
    Real or Wishful thinking?”


    Wishful thinking by the Left. Trump will never be indicted.
     
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  6. dairyair

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    Lol. I know a president can't impact world economy.
    How don't you know that?

    And what did he do now that gas prices are falling below $3 in places?
    Give the new policies he did do drop prices.
     
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    And the others conspired with Twitter to hide information that would hurt Biden's chances.
    What some did was try to stop the peaceful transition of power.[/QUOTE]
    Whoever filled your head with this crap is the true conspirator.
     
  8. Natty Bumpo

    Natty Bumpo Well-Known Member

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    Biden has apparently raised gas prices even higher abroad, much higher in some cases. Go figure.

    As a general rule, richer countries have higher prices while poorer countries and the countries that produce and export oil have significantly lower prices. One notable exception is the U.S. which is an economically advanced country but has low gas prices. The differences in prices across countries are due to the various taxes and subsidies for gasoline. All countries have access to the same petroleum prices of international markets but then decide to impose different taxes. As a result, the retail price of gasoline is different.

    December 3, 2922

    In the U.S., the national average price for a gallon of gas dropped to $3.38 on Saturday bringing it within two cents of where it was at this time last year, as gas prices continue to plummet well below the all-time high reached in June.

    Gas prices dropped 17.2 cents over the past week, according to GasBuddy head of petroleum analysis Patrick De Haan, with the decline exceeding the gas analysis group’s “fast case” scenario.

    The only state where gas costs more than $5, on average, is Hawaii ($5.19), as Great Lakes and West Coast states see massive drops over the past month as key oil refineries come back online, with California’s gas falling 68 cents over the past month to $4.81, Illinois’ dropping 60 cents to $3.68 and Oregon’s dropping 66 cents to $4.23.

    The drop comes even as gas demand holds steady at 3.2 million barrels per day, according to the Energy Information Administration, while gasoline inventories increased over the past week by 2.8 million barrels to 213.8 million, as of Wednesday, according to De Haan.

    Prices had soared earlier this year amid tight supplies, high inflation and as Russia’s invasion of Ukraine posed a threat to the global energy market. In September, OPEC+ oil-producing countries slashed production by 2 million barrels a day, prompting the Biden Administration to tap into the national Strategic Petroleum Reserve, clearing 14 million barrels per sale—the second time it tapped into the reserves this year, following the sale of 180 million barrels in March.

    [https://www.forbes.com/sites/brianb...-same-as-this-time-last-year/?sh=4af5f21f568b]
     
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  9. dairyair

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    Whoever filled your head with this crap is the true conspirator.[/QUOTE]
    Are you replying to the correct post?
     
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    No, he said in a conclusion in his report: "At the same time, if we had confidence after a thorough investigation of the facts that the President clearly did not commit obstruction of justice, we would so state. Based on the facts and the applicable legal standards, we are unable to reach that judgment." Mueller specifically said he wasn't passing judgment.

    Trump was AOL for three hours during the riot. Maybe you're different, but I can't accept or respect that. He's unfit to be President for that reason alone.
     
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    You may not like Mueller, but he said what he said and he specially did not exonerate Trump on obstruction.
     
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    Gaslighting Alert!
    Old Bone Spurs didn't capture anything just like Obama didn't get bin Laden.
    Who are you kidding when we have more than 10m illegals in the country, half of whom have overstayed a visa.
    Why undermine your credibility by making an obviously incorrect statement?
     
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    You can't stop all vote buying. There is government money for military bases, defense spending, public works...
    That won't stop pols from putting government facilities in a state, or building major pubic works.
    What you're suggesting will make life a lot worse in states like Mississippi when they lose the money transferred from states like California:

    "Democratic-leaning blue states tend to be wealthier and pay more to the federal government than they get. In contrast, Republican-leaning red states tend to have less wealth and receive more federal government funds than they pay. In the MoneyGeek rankings, 7 of the 10 most dependent states are considered red states."
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    https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/#red-vs-blue

    I don't want to see life get even tougher in red states because of your approach.
     
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    That's not why gasoline prices went up.
    It might impact prices in the future, but not that quickly.
    Another reason prices might go up in the future, but not right away.
    I don't think you could even begin to make a knowledgable economic case to support your view that business wasn't hurt in Texas by covid.
    More people died or got sick than if people were required to wear them.
    Who are you kidding? What you pay teachers when home prices went up 20% last year in Texas don't allow you to have quality schools.
    No, they didn't. They were impacted by covid just like businesses in New York.
    Ignoring covid doesn't make it go away. That's absurd.
    Your own state is divided. Austin is very different than more conservative areas.

    We'll see if Abbott does something about Texas' skyrocketing home prices. I bet not.
     
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    He depleted the National Strategic Oil Reserves, he begged Venezuela to increase production, he got on his hands and knees to beg Saudi to increase production.
    If you ever go to college, please take Macroeconomics and see how the US government impacts the world economy.
     
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    Seems counter productive to the climate control agenda to beg another country to produce more of that which is endangering our climate. I guess the pollution is only harmful if it's produced in the United States.
     
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    Gas was $2.37 when Trump left office. Biden sent it through the roof. Now we are supposed to rejoice that its only a dollar more than when Trump left? Wow... "Thank you master for beating me. Thank You. Thank you. May I have another?"
     
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    You still don't get it. Federal tax revenue would be slashed. Federal government won't have the money to do these things. With federal government reporting to the states, money printing would be a non starter. I think you should just agree to disagree. You aren't getting anywhere with your criticism of my concept.
     
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    Even courts never say anyone is innocent. They simply say "not guilty". Generally, that means there is not enough evidence for a conviction. Courts do not say "innocent" and "he didn't do it", they simply say "not guilty". That's what investigations do too, unless that is their stated goal. But few investigations will go out on a limb and say that someone categorically did nothing wrong.

    Trump was AOL? Are you sure? I didn't think very many people still used AOL as their server anymore.
     
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    YOU REALLY SHOULD CHECK YOUR "FACTS"

    https://www.investors.com/politics/...-in-months-after-years-of-excuses-from-obama/
     
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    Gas prices went up when Biden stopped pipelines, raised taxes on oil from wells on federal lands, discouraged fracking, and all but stopped issuing drilling licenses.

    Texas business are thriving. Sure, there was a bump due to the China Virus, but not much more than that.

    "More people died or got sick than if people were required to wear them.".... BS... pure propaganda... just like vaxxing stops the China Virus is pure propaganda... ask Biden... he vaxxed and got it

    Texas schools stayed open. Our kids will be doctors and astronauts while your kids still sit on the couch trying to learn to read.

    Austin is filled with left wingers escaping blue state chaos.
     
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    If you need to pretend that Biden controls the global price of gasoline that Trump had magically kept low, that's what you'll do.
     
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    Impeachment is a political tactic, not a criminal trial. Even if a person is impeached AND removed, they can still face criminal charges in a court of law. It is rare, even among executive and judicial officers of the Federal government. But it has become political since Andrew Johnson.
     
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    Some of them were not unarmed. May not have been firearms, but some were definitly armed as indicated by the charges indicated.
     
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    LOL, no, he is a registered Republican.
     

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