The coming indictment of Donald Trump will break his power: former Obama lawyer

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  1. AARguy

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    There is little wonder as to why the forum's Republicans remain silent about what the Republican Party is doing.

    The [Republican] Senate Intelligence Committee on Tuesday [4/21/2020] reaffirmed its support for the U.S. intelligence community’s conclusion that the Russian government interfered in the 2016 presidential election with the goal of putting Donald Trump in the Oval Office. https://www.politico.com/news/2020/...rms-russia-aimed-to-help-trump-in-2016-198171

    Soon after his dinner with a white nationalist and an antisemite, the lone Republican candidate for the Presidency in 2024 called for the termination of the U.S. Constitution.

    Trump again demanded that the 2020 election be overturned or rerun, for the first time explicitly calling to set aside the supreme law of the land.

    “A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” he wrote in a post on Saturday on his social network, Truth Social.

    Jesse Wegman writes for the Times, "There is no question that Donald Trump is ineligible under the 14th Amendment, Section 3. Given the amendment’s broad language, under which the disqualification extends not only to those who have “engaged in insurrection or rebellion” but also to those who have “given aid or comfort” to those who have done so, the case against Mr. Trump is particularly clear."

    "A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of the Constitution,” Donald Trump on Saturday.

    “The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS,” Trump wrote on Monday.

    There is definitely something wrong with the former President. He is hoping the educationally-challenged, uninformed rural voter that makes up the Republican base will believe him.

    Obviously, the forum's Republicans do not want to talk about this.
     
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    Yumpin Yiminee crickets.

    The decrease was during the pandemic.
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    As I said, with the possible exception of Khashoggi becoming the reason Saudis refused to pump more oil when Russia attacked the Ukraine--something we hadn't been discussing in terms of domestic US production--there's nothing Joe did that caused prices to jump in his time in office. There will be a longer term impact if these measures are sustained.
    All because I won't tolerate your insults.

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    I haven't challenged your claims about having an MBA, but I find it hard to believe you could have an MBA and know so little about economics.
     
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    What the Russians do or fail to do is up to them. It in no way indicates any cooperation by any American entity.

    Trump did not call for the termination of the Constitution. Read what he said. He said that some portions of the Constitution are inadequate to deal with the fake news and foreign influence.

    Why are you so scared of further examination of the 2020 election? Hiding something?

    A disorganized, unarmed bunch of protesters taking over ONE BUILDING for a few hours is an "insurrection"??? LOLOL Sounds like spitting on the sidewalk is open rebellion in your view... LOLOL.

    "“The Fake News is actually trying to convince the American People that I said I wanted to ‘terminate’ the Constitution. This is simply more DISINFORMATION & LIES, just like RUSSIA, RUSSIA, RUSSIA, and all of their other HOAXES & SCAMS,” Trump wrote on Monday."
    Sounds accurate to me.

    I was born in the Bronx and raised in NY. I am a West Point graduate with an MBA from Missouri. I have Commanded troops from CONUS to Germany and served in Iraq. I have lived in MA, NH, NJ, MO, CA, FL, Iraq, Germany, UK, Israel, Turkey, Greece, and more. I hold a patent for a "Six Degree of Freedom Piezoelectric Platform for Laser Aiming". But you would consider me a "rural voter", since I'm retired and living in rural Texas. (It's so annoying when blue state ghetto dwellers characterize rural dwellers as "educationally challenged" and "uninformed". I would suggest that people that say such things have generally never been more than five miles from their homes and think Hoboken is the "DEEP SOUTH".)
     
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    13,000 in 2020 under Trump. 11,000 to 11,500 under Biden
     
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    Saying Putin's invasion of Ukraine impacted oil prices is kinda silly. A sort of "the dog ate my homeork" claim. Biden raised taxes on oil from wells on federal lands, discouraged fracking, stopped pipelines and all but ended drilling licenses.

    Sorry if you are sensitive about your degrees. The state of California was up to its eyeballs in fluffy degrees a few years ago (history, art, music, business, etc) and had no one to teach math or science. They recruited me on the strength of my Engineering Degree with no teaching credits at all. They gave me a Teaching Certificate and I taught Physics for two years. I ended up going back to industry for the money but it was a great experience. I know quite a bit about economics. I won't tolerate your insults.
     
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    9500 in Jul 2020 under trump. Did you study chart reading in that college of yours?
     
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    You cherry picked a date. I simply picked the date Trump left office as an unbiased point of reference. Your immature insult is noted.
     
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    I picked the low of oil production.
    And it's been on an uptrend since then..
    The US economy really didn't open fully until summer of 21
     
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    fascist Democrats in DC will do anything, legal and illegal to destroy Trump and the country with it. One thing is for sure, it's going to be a show.
     
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    That was in blue states. Our wonderful Gov Abbott outlawed all China Virus Mandate Tyranny here in early 2020.
     
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    Liberal references to things like Trump "thuggery", "violence" and "pathological lies" are never accompanied by any examples. Its all BS.
     
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    If it didn't have an impact, why are prices coming down now?
    Au contraire. I had an opportunity to attend better universities, but when I saw what students were learning there I wasn't interested in moving. I took higher-level courses in a range of disciplines--economics, business, science, engineering, history, political science, computers...
    I taught computer science and mathematics.
    Don't treat me like I'm one of the dimbulbs who swallows your price of gasoline propaganda. I supported the Keystone pipeline because it's necessary infrastructure, and I realize Biden is driving up prices in the longer term. But the price surge isn't a product of his policies (not counting the Saudi business).
     
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    OK... OK... Biden's not waging a war on the American oil industry... its all Ukraine's fault.... and the dog ate your homework... LOL... ok... ok

    You never mentioned your science and engineering background before.... sorry if I upset you with my "fluffy" education comment, I tend to value educations that design and produce actual things more than "sitting under a tree contemplating your navel" disciplines
     
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    As stated you forgot… No you have absolutely turned a blind eye to crime in our country in favor of: you know your party is wrong, yet you still need your OPINION to be right.

    Note: President Trump has been scrutinized more than any politician in history with absolutely nothing the could possibly convict him.

    Aren’t you at least a tiny bit curious what would happen if ANY lifetime politician were investigated like President Trump is?

    Just imagine what those investigators might find, or maybe you could care less because you just HATE the greatest President in my, my father, and my grandfathers lifetime.
     
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    President Trump hate, PERIOD.
    No facts, no research, just what this poster has been told by his party.
     
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    The Constitution is all we have. Why doesn't the guy advance a thoughtful [cough!] amendment?
    Will Republicans be stupid enough to keep pushing Trump's phoney election claims?
    What did Trump do during the riot? Nothing. He deserted his post.
    Are you deliberately blind to Trump's lies and propaganda?
    It may upset you, but rural voters are generally less educated. Same for inner city voters.
     
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    Trump will likely get an indictment (or several) for his theft of government documents. But we'll see an indictment against the Trump Organization much sooner (with Trump and his defenders claiming he had no idea what was going on in the company he was supposedly running).
     
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    Why hide election data?
    Trump had a post? Who was Sergeant of the Guard?
    Trumpmust really scare you for you to obsess so much. Why does he scare you so?
    Rural voters are generally less educated? Where did you get such biased, prejudiced BS? Like I said, I'm a "rural voter" with an Engineering Degree from est Point and an MBA from Missouri. How about YOU Mister Inner City Ghetto?
     
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    So you could not answer a single question.
    Instead you need to turn a blind eye to the convictions of some oath keepers to seditious conspiracy.
    AFAIK, there's no independent party, your ad hom fails.

    All politicians are investigated like trump, it comes with the territory of running for POTUS. They just don't carry that kind of baggage. Why do you love trump so much?
     
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    Wait... did Trump get convicted of something? Did I miss it? Can you tell me the date of the conviction? The location of the court? I never saw it...
     
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    I have not heard of trump getting convicted of anything. So you didn't miss nothing. Unless trump is one of the oath keepers convicted that I posted about?
     
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    No, not okay. Biden is setting up a bad situation by driving up costs around extracting and using hydrocarbons. The leftwingers who don't understand business are unable and/or unwilling to get beyond idiotic symbolism of cancelling Keystone, opposing a new mine, or extracting natural gas. They push technologies before they're ready.
    I mentioned it plus some of the software I created. I also ran an auto repair firm--not engineering, of course, but it isn't fluff. I find engineering interesting, but not something I wanted to do for a career. Ditto computer science. BTW, I do own an iPhone 14 Pro and an iPad Pro 12.9". I use them to encourage my wife to use her iPhone and iPad.
    That's fine, but engineering is only part of most products. Engineering a consumer product is one thing and designing a jet aircraft or a bridge is another matter.

    How we integrate technology into society is important. Engineers don't have all the answers even when they design what we're integrating. OTOH, I've been on the receiving end with software of having business types try to make demands that are far too costly to implement. I happen to have had a foot in both end of the business. ("Had" because I'm retired.) I suspect you were the same way--otherwise, why get an MBA if you only want to stay on the technical side?
     
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    I always dealt with defense. The products I helped design and build didn't get integrated into society, they integrated into a battlefield: night vision, tactical lasers, networked communications, missile guidance, tracking systems for use when GPS was blocked... stuff like that. The MBA was in preparation for a time when I would be dealing with customers more and more. In the later years of my career I roamed the world talking with US and allied soldiers trying to discover what new things they'd like to have, then returning to my engineer teams to see if we could build them. It was a fun and exciting time discussing all sorts of new ideas. The MBA helped me close the deals, although by that time I had learned that many of the business "rules" didn't apply in foreign applications. The "better mouse trap", however, was always the key to success.
     

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