The Communists Behind the Anti-Trump Protests

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  1. Texas Republican

    Texas Republican Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    There's more venom and hate in these groups than in a million Trumps.
     
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    They should have learned their lesson a quarter century ago, but they act like it never happened...

    First, I want to thank you for all the information and your research, saves a lot of work for many of us trying to expose these 'people' for who they are. I would like to comment on the area I highlighted. The sad thing about many of these people is they think history began on the day they were born and refuse to learn from it.
     
  3. Kode

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    That was the time of McCarthy and his extreme scare tactics to steer America away from workers' organizations, against unions, and against anything that wasn't republican and extreme right. It was the time of the witch hunts for "communist sympathizers" in government. It was a time of hate, lies, anti-worker, pro-corporate, right wing extremism. And you want to go back to that. You should be ashamed of yourself. That was all found to be exactly as I said: lies, hate, and extremism.

    You radicals need to get something straight. Workers and their families comprise over 80% of America. In fact, it's more like 95%. And workers tend to care about the interests of the people and not primarily corporations and business. Marxism is about workers' interests. Socialism is about workers taking control for the people, whom they are. So some intersection or connection between workers' interests and Marxism should not come as a surprise.

    Many of you on the right will declare a cause-effect relationship between anything you find that defends the interests of the people on the one hand, and Marxism on the other. The majority of American remain anti-communist and anti-socialist but this doesn't deter you. Your irrational fears, instilled by lying, biased right wing pundits, drive you make such irrational connections even though most people don't need it. But they do need and support strengthening Social Security, for example, and a great many on the right are convinced that the program is a communist plot and evil. You don't stand on the side of the people with your dreams of a right wing America in opposition to the working class.

    So you imagine a connection between the A.N.S.W.E.R. Coalition (something I didn't know about) and Marxists, as you do with Social Security, Medicare, public education, the minimum wage, and a hundred other things the working class will fight for and did fight for. But such fantasies seem to comfort you in your delusions. Enjoy them.

    The problem with you on the right is that all most of you know about Marxism and socialism is what your highly biased right wing pundits tell you about them. You don't know the truth. And you're filled with fear by your pundits..... -irrational fear.... -like McCarthy was. But capitalism is falling apart and unable to deliver so well today. And contrary to your fantasies, there is no going back to "the good old days" that never actually existed. "Make America great again"? And when was it great?... -from about 1945 to 1975 when FDR's "socialist" New Deal was in full force and everyone benefited including business. But today there isn't enough to go around. So the right wants all for business and to crush the workers of America who built the nation and made it great.

    I know this is falling on deaf ears, so why continue.
     
  4. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    You're welcome, gc. As I mentioned before, it's disgraceful that the MSM isn't exposing these extremists.

    I don't think "progressives" are teaching it in our state indoctrination centers, media and entertainment industry either. One notable exception has been the American Heroes Channel (AHC) on cable/satellite TV. To their credit they've been running a bunch of documentaries on the socialist monsters (Lenin, Stalin, Mao, etc.) who killed millions of hapless human beings during the 20th Century.
     
  5. Kode

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    There aren't any to expose. Keep fantasizing.
     
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    The things institutions of higher learning aren't teaching besides civics and history is common sense
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    MSM aren't calling them out mainly because they're with them.
     
  7. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Talk about lies.

    Evidently, you would have us believe that Julius and Ethel Rosenberg, Harry Gold, David Greenglass and Whitaker Chambers never existed.

    Evidently, you would us believe that the Weathermen, the Black Panther Party and other violent socialist groups didn't exist, either.

    Yeah, there were no Soviet spies, communists and communist sympathizers in government. There was no Left wing extremism. It was all "lies, hate and extremism."

    Look who's talking. The radical who is about to sing the praises of Marxism and socialism:

    What a joke. Marxism and Socialism is about power. It's about Marxists and Socialists obtaining power and wielding power. It's about the Noyades de Nantes, the Gulag and the Laogai. It's about the Berlin Wall and the Killing Fields of Cambodia.

    It's about radical Leftist idiots who don't understand economics and human nature and embrace an authoritarian ideology that masquerades as altruism.

    Nice propaganda. Did you work for Pravda back in the day?

    Imagine? :roflol:

    The Marxists in ANSWER are Marxists. They openly admit it - it's scrawled all over the pre-fab signs they wave at their "spontaneous" protests.

    Bravo! Encore!

    Don't stop now - I can't buy this kind of entertainment...
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  8. Durandal

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    It was the time of resisting people trying to turn this country Communist, a real threat with the power and influence of the USSR.

    I suppose you think the Communist regimes were paradise on earth..

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    Dude needs to read some Orwell. :D
     
  9. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I've got all kinds of reading for Comrade Kode:

    Left-wing Bloodbaths
    Radical leftists would have us believe that they stand for democracy, progress, human rights and social justice. But when they seize power, they introduce slavery, terror, famine, concentration camps and mass murder. As the Marxists used to say, this is no accident.
    http://www.paulbogdanor.com/left.html
     
  10. Durandal

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    Oh man, I do not want to imagine the kind of regime those crybabies on the streets today would erect if given the chance. I would expect to see major "purges" follow.
     
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    They cry racism, but they're really just projecting.
     
  12. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I imagine it would look something like a Chankiri Tree:

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    Well, as an actual-to-goodness communist I certainly wish that my fellow communists were playing a large role in promoting anti-Trumpism, in doing such a service for our society. However, unfortunately, for reasons I won't expatiate here, we're a small movement in this country nowadays, and alas and tragically you needn't concern yourself with us. It's merely your rightist, anti-communist mentality that has you preoccupied with us.
     
  14. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Actually, we're giving your ANSWERnik comrades what they're screaming for, charles, and that's attention.

    But you're right, we don't need to preoccupy ourselves with them. As Mark Twain said "Noise proves nothing. Often a hen who has merely laid an egg cackles as if she laid an asteroid."

    And so it is...
     
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    A coworker of mine immigrated from the Czech Republic. He was there during and after the Soviets took it over. His father was there when they rolled into town. I've heard first hand accounts of the "workers party" and all it has to offer. No thanks, take that crap and move to Cuba, they will welcome you with open arms....
     
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    Aside from the swine who are being paid to scream and break things, the traumatized children, who seem happy and excited to miss out on school and walk around holding up signs designed to delegitimize our next president, will tire eventually and soon realize the government will not change for their hurt feelings.
     
  17. Talon

    Talon Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    They're all coming to the end of this news cycle, but I'm cool with them continuing to slap themselves in the face. The longer they keep it up, the more they're going to turn people off. No one likes sore losers, crybabies and violent socialists.
     
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    And we hear from another genius who makes the hackneyed error of confusing Stalinism with communism.
     
  19. Mandelus

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    Oh my God ... is this a serious claim now?

    Folks, this can't be truth that in 2016 anyone is still in fight modus against evil communist and sees in everything what is not far right a communist issue! Are there still really such morons existing in the USA? Unbelievable...
     
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    Feel free to point to a successful communist county, I would like to learn about their culture.
     
  21. Brewskier

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    And we hear another "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
     
  22. Space_Time

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    Here's more:

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/19/socialists-protest-trump-capitalism-in-chicago/

    Socialists Protest Trump, Capitalism In Chicago

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    MICHAEL VOLPE
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    Radical groups congregated in downtown Chicago Saturday to resist a Trump presidency by any means necessary.

    The rally, which started at noon in Federal Plaza downtown and proceeded in front of the Trump Tower, was organized by the Chicago branch of Act Now to Stop War and End Racism (ANSWER), a radical leftist group which supports socialism, open borders, and a single Palestinian state.

    ANSWER has been organizing anti-Trump protests following the election in cities like Chicago, New York, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and Albuquerque. The group is also planning a “mass rally” on inauguration day. (RELATED: Venezuelan Diplomat Joins Chicago Communists Plotting Trump Resistance)

    “We came out here today and we’ve been coming out here all week to make one thing very clear — Donald Trump better not come to Chicago is not welcome in Chicago,” Jon Beacham, an ANSWER organizer told the crowd to thunderous applause saying later. “We have to resist Trump.”
    “This is movement,” Beacham said, asking and getting the crowd to repeat. “Not a moment.”

    It was one of several chants.

    “Hands too small,” another unidentified male speaker screamed to the crowd.


    “Can’t build a wall,” the crowd boisterously responded.

    “When immigrants are under attack, what do we do?” he also screamed.

    “Stand up fight back,” The crowd responded.

    “When Muslims are under attack, what do we do?” he continued.

    “Stand up fight back,” the crowd repeated.

    “When our schools are under attack, what do we do?” he continued with his list of grievances.

    “Stand up fight back,” the crowd continued repeating.

    Protesters outside of Trump Tower in Chicago (Photo courtesy of Michael Volpe)
    Protesters outside of Trump Tower in Chicago (Photo courtesy of Michael Volpe)

    ANSWER was not the only radical group at the rally. The Revolutionary Communist Party USA (REVCOM) piggy backed off the rally, promoting their own anti-police brutality protest that will be held Sunday, November 20 on the south side of the city.

    “We got to get organized for an actual revolution to overthrow the whole capitalist system and replace it with a radical new system,” a REVCOM member screamed.

    WATCH:



    Representatives of the Socialist Worker, a newspaper put out by the International Socialist Organization, passed out their November 2 edition released prior to the election. The lead article was entitled #NotWithEitherOfThem and argued against the candidacies of both Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton.

    The Workers World Party (WWP), another communist party, was passing out fliers for the inauguration day protest, which WWP is now helping to organize.

    Protesters outside of Trump Tower in Chicago (Photo courtesy of Michael Volpe)
    Protesters outside of Trump Tower in Chicago (Photo courtesy of Michael Volpe)

    The Party for Socialism and Liberation was passing out fliers for its “Day of Socialism classes” to be held on December 3 on the north side of Chicago.

    “Stopping Trump and defeating capitalism,” read a banner at their table promoting the classes.

    Protesters outside of Trump Tower in Chicago (Photo courtesy of Michael Volpe)
    Protesters outside of Trump Tower in Chicago (Photo courtesy of Michael Volpe)

    The International Youth and Studies for Social Equality, the Socialist Equality Party, and the World Socialist Web Site, were handing out fliers for their own public meeting on November 22 to be held in the University of Illinois at Chicago (UIC). UIC was where Trump’s ill-fated March rally was supposed to be held before being cancelled after confrontations grew violent between protesters and rally goers.

    “In the immediate aftermath of the 2016 presidential election young people and workers took to the streets throughout the country to protest what they right regard as a catastrophic outcome,” the flier for their rally stated. “What is the way forward in mobilizing against a Trup presidency and in the struggle against war?”

    ANSWER announced on Friday that the inauguration day “mass rally” will be held in Freedom Plaza in D.C.

    Tags: Chicago, Donald Trump, Socialists
     
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    Is there really no compelling evidence of behind the scenes funding or manipulation of the protests?:

    http://www.salon.com/2017/02/07/the...protests-erupting-around-the-country_partner/

    TUESDAY, FEB 7, 2017 02:48 AM MST
    Republicans have invented a delusional storyline about protests around the country
    The notion of paid protesters, activists from the far left is "an article of faith" among right wing commentators
    JONAH ALLON, ALTERNET

    Republicans have invented a delusional storyline about protests around the country
    Protesters gather for the Women's March on Philadelphia a day after Republican Donald Trump's inauguration as president, Saturday, Jan. 21, 2017 in Philadelphia. The march is being held in solidarity with similar events taking place in Washington and around the nation. ()(Credit: AP Photo/Jacqueline Larma)
    This article originally appeared on AlterNet.
    AlterNet

    If those who do not remember history are doomed to repeat it, those who conveniently forget recent history are just digging their own graves.

    Just to be clear, we’re not talking about the troubling parallel between Trump’s executive order banning refugees and visa applicants from seven Muslim-majority countries and the U.S.’s reluctance to admit Jewish refugees during the Holocaust, although it applies there too. At least, not directly. No, those forgetting recent history are congressional Republicans. Fresh off their recent electoral success, they seem to think the rise of the Tea Party eight years ago was a one-off event, rather than a portent of what is to come in an age of political polarization.

    Two weeks ago saw one of the largest popular protests in history in the Women’s March, which drew over three million nationwide, according to some estimates. Last weekend, as Trump’s executive order went into effect, sowing chaos at airports from coast to coast, spontaneous protests erupted, eventually forcing the administration to scale back the ban on green-card holders. Activists, Democrats, progressive and many ordinary previously apolitical Americans, still reeling from the election of Donald Trump and the consolidation of Republican power at all levels of government, seems to have mobilized in a way not seen since Tea Party protests rippled across the country in 2009.

    A reasonable Republican surveying all this might be convinced of the need to proceed with caution on a number of political fronts, like dismantling the Affordable Care Act, reproductive rights or immigration. Tea Party Congressman David Brat isn’t going that route. He’s dismissing it all as a liberal conspiracy.

    VideoMaxine Waters: Trump Impeaching Himself

    During an interview with the Richmond Times-Dispatch Monday, Brat was asked about the voter backlash in his district against repealing the Affordable Care Act. He said, “There’s paid protestors, paid activists on the far left . . . They’re being paid to go around and raise havoc.”

    This is far from a fringe view. It is an article of faith among many Republicans and conservative commentators that those speaking out against elements of Trump’s agenda are not concerned constituents but outside agitators with dubious funding sources. On Monday, Trump lapdog Sean Hannity asked on Twitter, “Who is bankrolling the protests taking place at airports across the country?”

    It may be ideologically attractive for Republicans to pretend that the bulk of the dissent from the other side comes from a small, hyper-partisan group with limited electoral clout. But politically, it’s disastrous. The Tea Party’s showing in the 2010 midterms is a case in point. What began as a relatively small movement that seemed a little too enamored with the Constitution and Revolutionary War cosplay quickly delivered the largest House swing since Truman, giving Republicans a solid majority. Now, with a historically unpopular president in office seemingly hell-bent on alienating all segments of the electorate except loyal readers of Breitbart, liberals could be poised to strike back in 2018.
    It’s not just those traditionally associated with the left, either. Republicans’ dismissal of the backlash against their policies has rankled some would-be supporters, too. A couple of weeks ago, Talking Points Memo ran a piece, “How the Obamacare Town Hall Script Flipped This Week,” which interviewed Darren Knowles, a special education teacher in Colorado and a two-time voter for George W. Bush, who showed up at Republican Congressman Mike Coffman’s event to voice his concerns about the ACA repeal. After meeting with a few constituents, Coffman slipped out of the event, blaming “partisan activists” for his early departure.

    “That really got my blood boiling,” Knowles told TPM. “He said he’d stand up to Trump and this is like Trump’s playbook right here: blame the people who stand up to you. I don’t know what representative Coffman wanted. If we’re concerned, are we not supposed to show up and voice our concerns?”

    As congressional Republicans continue to cocoon themselves in a world where people like Mr. Knowles don’t exist, or are the exception rather than the rule, this type of anger and disaffection among their constituents will only intensify, perhaps even to the point that it could further jeopardize their chances of retaining their majorities in both chambers.
    Perhaps the greatest irony about the “paid protester” line echoed by many in the GOP is that the Tea Party itself benefited from big-money backers, despite its self-styled image as a popular uprising against government overreach. As the New Yorker’s Jane Mayer reported in 2010, Americans for Prosperity, the Koch brothers’ political advocacy group, coordinated with the Tea Party in 2009, disseminating talking points, funding protests, and cultivating candidates. Meaning the people who participated in Tea Party protests were, knowingly or not, furthering the Kochs’ political agenda.

    Despite Republicans’ insistence to the contrary, there is no compelling evidence that the marches and protests cropping up all over the country owe their success to shady funding sources, or a billionaire’s largesse. They have drawn their strength from the widely shared indignation over a president who is quickly confirming his detractors’ worst predictions and a congressional leadership too fearful of its base to stand in his way. Come 2018, Republicans may find they have more to fear from a resurgent activist left.

    MORE JONAH ALLON.
     

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