The Confederacy represents racism

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  1. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    I love all these people claiming things about the confederacy but are refusing to, or are incapable of, answering even the simplest of questions I pose to them.
     
  2. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    We follow your leader
     
  3. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    What exactly has he done that’s racist?
     
  4. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    tried to ban all Muslims
     
  5. struth

    struth Well-Known Member

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    huh? that’s completely false

    moreover muslim isn’t a race
     
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  6. TheImmortal

    TheImmortal Well-Known Member

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    Lol no he didn’t. He banned people from certain countries who were majority Muslim.
     
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    The war was over the ability of an individual state's RIGHT to permit business activities within its own borders that had been and integral part of life in the South already for more than 200 years before the Civil War broke out!

    Reality: the states that made up the "Deep South" had relied on the use of enslaved workers to propel their intensely agrarian societies and economy. Slavery was customary throughout much of the entire world -- especially in Sub-Saharan Africa, where 'black-on-black' slavery was UBIQUITOUS....

    Slavery, as you surely know, had been widely practiced throughout the entirety of the American colonies, too, since early in the 17th-century, and slavery was included as a perfectly normal RIGHT at the time our Constitution was written and agreed upon by ALL states in the United States by the beginning of the 19th-century! (Hint: re-read the 10th Amendment to the U. S. Constitution).

    The rest you know.... The Northern states began to become more "industrialized" (the "Industrial Revolution") :roll: . But the Southern states didn't 'follow the lead' that had begun with England, France, and the Northern U. S., where slave labor was no longer needed to support the entire economy.

    The South grew more and more alienated by the central, 'Federal' government, feeling the North was going to abolish a necessary 'tool' of their whole way of life, and so they decided to form their own country. The far more wealthy and populous North CRUSHED the South... end of story.

    Conclusion: you're right -- the South was 'racist'! And, again, it is a true statement that many in other countries thought that negroes were inferior, and many even thought that negroes were little more evolutionarily-advanced than apes and monkeys!

    The aftereffects of this genuinely racist thinking contaminated American beliefs until about World War II, and then by 1965, we had finally abolished REAL 'systemic racism' with the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act. A lot of people didn't agree with it at the time, but during the next ten years or so, even in the Deep South, segregation and legalized inequality were done completely away with!

    Fast-forward to 2020.... We've got anarchic mobs roaming the streets, destroying or stealing everything they can lay their hands on, and raising hell about police who are fought and shot at by law-breaking black 'perps' who commit crimes involving everything from passing counterfeit money, selling illegal drugs, to one life-endangering 'domestic-violence' episode after another, and violently resisting arrest! Oh -- and the mobs blame it on "RACISM".

    Sorry... but as they say down South, "That dog don't hunt!" :disbelief:
     
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  8. Cybred

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    You mean the war was over the RIGHT to have slaves. And no we didn't abolish systemic racism.
     
  9. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    It is a fact that Trump wanted to and tried to ban all Muslims from coming to the USA
     
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    then it should be very easy for you to provide that
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    he said during the campaign he wanted to ban all Muslims.

    then when President he asked Guiliani how to implement a Muslim ban
     
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    They put his picture in American tanks.
     
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    Patently false. On both counts
     
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  14. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The declerations of secession are pretty clear.

    they feared the USA would eventually ban slavery and they believed holding black people as slaves was their eternal and natural right, as white people
     
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    Again. The evidence doesn’t support that claim. The south had no need to go to war to preserve slavery as an inalienable constitutional right. All they had to do was sign the Corwin amendment.
     
  16. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    haha!!!

    Corwin Amendment was proposed after the Confederate states had already seceded and declared a new nation.
     
  17. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    LOL

    Corwin Amendment.

    would have been totally illegal.

    you cannot make an Amendment to the Constitution that says no future Amendment may reverse it.

    No court would uphold such a silly idea.

    They could tomorrow overrule the Bill of Rights if they wanted to, if they passed an Amendment.
     
  18. struth

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    nope. he wanted to ban counties that the obama admin had ID has high risk, that happened to be muslim majority and hot beds for terrorist from coming in. He was able to do that.

    he’s expanded the ban (it’s not really a full ban, it’s just harder to get through because the nations aren’t stable) to other non- muslim majority nations

    it would be better for you in the long run to expand your actual sources for news, and not just listen to chinese funded propaganda that you get on CNN, MSDNC or other dem sources
     
  19. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Wrong Trump wanted to ban all Muslims from coming to the USA.

    He then found out that he could not legally do that so he found a way to ban travel from as many Muslim nations as possible
     
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    He only banned people from specific countries. Not all Muslims.
     
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    We all could all use a link to support your statement. I'll wait.
     
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    And yet they did.
     
  23. Ronstar

    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I guess you forgot the 2016 campaign where Trump said again and again he is calling for a ban on all Muslims until "we configure what the hell is going on"
     
  24. TheImmortal

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    No. They didn’t. They went to war in defense of the constitution.

    As Jefferson Davis put it, “I would rather leave the union with the constitution than to remain in the union without it.”
     
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    Ronstar Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    No ****

    He wanted to ban all Muslims but found out very quickly that would be illegal
     

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