The Corrupt DOJ, FBI, and CIA.

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    RoanokeIllinois Banned Donor

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    I'm just curious, but if the DOJ, FBI, and CIA, aren't corrupt, and aren't controlled by the American Democrat Politicians, Then why is it, that most, if not all of time, they don't go after Democrats, and Democrat Politicians?
     
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    Do democrat voters in America, honestly think that Republicans and Republican Politicians, are the only ones, that can be corrupt? cough cough, Chicago, Illinois. Very liberal, and corrupt for over 100 years. Or, maybe democrats actually believe the mentality in which their gods tell them to believe. That they're always the "victims", and that all republicans are evil, and that they're always good, sweet, and innocent. lol.
     
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    Robert Byrd
    Hubert Humphrey
    Ted Kennedy
    Robert Kennedy
    Harry Truman
    Pat Brown
    Bill Clinton
    Hillary Clinton
     
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    The illegal activities of Cohen (and Trump in the same case), Manafort, Gates, Bannon, Stone, Barrack, Broidy, Papadopoulos, were the hallmark of the beginning of the Trump admin. Then there was the purge of corrupt cabinet secretaries like Tom Price, David Shulkin, Scott Pruitt, and Ryan Zinke.
    The admin closed out its reign of illegality with..........frankly I've lost count.........numerous members of Trump's inner circle being disciplined, convicted, indicted, or investigated for various crimes and or misdeeds.

    That is reality. Not partisan spin, not fake news, not the media being "unfair, so unfair."

    What do Trump supporters do in the face of objective truth? They create a fatuous counter narrative that says up is down, black is white, and law enforcement agencies are corrupt.
     
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    great list. However, maybe I should have added, more recently. I thought that it was sort of implied, but I shouldn't of made that assumption. my bad. lol. Since those organizations have been stacked with liberals at the highest levels.

    When has their most recent ones been?
     
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    You're ignoring the fact that when tRaitor tRump was President Bill Barr acted as tRaitor tRumps personal attorney 98% of the time. The FBI and CIA, By and Large, enforce domestic law and keep us safe, without bias or even the appearance of bias, 95%++ of the time. It's not a perfect world, but OUR Government does the peoples business most of the time. It's the ongoing political clown show in Washington that gives OUR Government the appearance of bias and that depends largely on who's in power at the time AND how the media interprets what's going on there.

    We don't have a perfect Government, but we DO have a GOOD government that really try's to do a proper job.
     
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    what did burrack insane obame from the corrupt state of Illinois get caught doing?

    You're right, I'm sorry. would you like to talk about your wittle "feelings" more, and how it's "unfair" to democrats and their politicians, what I just wrote? maybe some milk and cookies will help in a college type counseling setting will help as well?

    me bad Republican, always attacking the poor innocent victim Democrats and their politicians.

    I always thought, up was down, and black was white, after learning about political correctness. That's when the World seemed upside down and all around to me anyways.
     
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    Funny thing is. Most people on both sides of the political spectrum in America, beleive that our government is corrupt to some degree, and can't be trusted.

    And yet, Democrat Politicians keep pushing more government down our throats.

    Also, a good point to make, is that in the last presidential election, Washington D.C. went over 90 percent Democrat. lol.
    corruption anyone?
    I'll add Chicago and New York for ya, and Cali, don't for get the homeless pee and poo State of America. lmao.

    By the way, you didn't even talk about my op. I'M GUESSING A LOT OF DEMOCRATS THAT POST IN THIS THREAD WON'T ACTUALLY TALK ABOUT HOW NONE OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS WON'T GO AFTER THEIR POLITICIANS WITHIN THE PAST 5-10 YEARS. EVER SINCE THEY WERE CORRUPTED WITH DEMOCRATS AT THE HIGHEST LEVELS. BEING BIASED, AND PLAYING IDENTITY POLITICS. Which is morally wrong. Isn't it illegal also? lol.
     
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    wait a minute. you're not telling me that democrat politician gods, aren't perfect, are you?

    have you told this to other democrat voters? you wouldn't want to break their wittle fantasies.
     
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    That's a great question! Why don't they? Why didn't they when Republicans controlled the House, the Senate, the Presidency, the DoJ, the courts, the Supreme Court.... After Trump appointed scores of U.S. Attorneys and was able to hand-pick the FBI director, and the Attorney General (twice)... why DIDN'T they find anything to go after Democrats for? How is it possible they couldn't find ANYTHING illegal to charge them with? How is it that, in fact, the MAIN person Trump promised in campaign he would put in jail (HRC) wasn't even CHARGED with a crime? And was, instead, actually EXONERATED ... again and again... by that same DoJ, by Republican-led Congressional Committees, by the IG, .... How is it possible that not a SINGLE one of the dozens of District Attorneys and Judges appointed by Trump... not ONE could find anything to charge her.. or ANY Democrat, for that matter, with?

    Could YOU answer that question please? I know Trump was the most incompetent President in U.S. history, but was he so incompetent that he couldn't find in this country even a sing measly District Attorney to charge any Democrat with any crime?

    Or is it even possible that Democratic politicians are this honest? Nah! That can't be it!
     
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    The crimes of the FBI/DOJ and all the other secret police/spy agencies are well documented, but seldom reported.

    β€œIn January 1975, the Senate resolved to establish a Committee to: conduct an investigation and study of governmental operations with respect to intelligence activities and the extent, if any, to which illegal, improper, or unethical activities were engaged in by any agency of the Federal Government.' This Committee was organized shortly thereafter and has conducted a year-long investigation into the intelligence activities of the United States Government, the first substantial inquiry into the intelligence community since World War II. The inquiry arose out of allegations of substantial wrongdoing by intelligence agencies on behalf of the administrations which they served. A deeper concern underlying the investigation was whether this Government's intelligence activities were governed and controlled consistently with the fundamental principles of American constitutional government-that power must be checked and balanced and that the preservation of liberty requires the restraint of laws, and not simply the good intentions of men. Our investigation has confirmed that properly controlled and lawful intelligence is vital to the nation's interest. A strong and effective intelligence system serves, for example, to monitor potential military threats from the Soviet Union and its allies, to verify compliance with international agreements such as SALT, and to combat espionage and international terrorism. These, and many other necessary and proper functions are performed by dedicated and hard working employees of the intelligence community. The Committee's investigation has, however, also confirmed substantial wrongdoing. And it has demonstrated that intelligence activities have not generally been governed and controlled in accord with the fundamental principles of our constitutional system of government.”

    SENATE SELECT COMMITTEE TO STUDY GOVERNMENTAL OPERATIONS WITH RESPECT TO INTELLIGENCE ACTIVITIES
    FRANK CHURCH, Idaho, Ohoairman JOHN G. TOWER, Texas, Vice Chairman PHILIP A. HART, Michigan HOWARD H. BAKER, Ja., Tennessee WALTER F. MONDALE, Minnesota BARRY GOLDWATER, Arizona WAIllER D. HUDDLESTON, Kentucky CHARLES McC. MATHIAS, Ja., Maryland ROBERT MORGAN, North Carolina RICHARD S. SCHWEIKER, Pennsylvania GARY HART, Colorado WILLIAM G. MILLER, Staff Director FREDERICK A. 0. SCHWARZ, Jr., Chief Counsel CURTIS R. SMOTHERS, Counsel to the Minority AUDREY HATRY, Clerk of the Committee (I)
    APRIL 26 (legislative day, APRIL 14), 1976
    https://www.intelligence.senate.gov/sites/default/files/94755_II.pdf

    So, what is the solution? Vote RP? ;-)

    VOTE REPUBLICAN!
    BACK THE BLUE!

    Worked for Larry Elder -- right? :)
     
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    You see, the Presidency has terms of 4 years. Maybe you can google this, so I won't have to teach you things next time, and you can do your homework all by yourself?

    Trump has only served 1 term. He can serve another 4 year term if he wishes.

    So, before Trump, burrack insane obama was president for 8 years.

    if an organization such as the FBI, DOJ, and CIA would be infected at the highest levels, it would make rational, and merely common sense, that it would take many years to do so. lol. not just overnight. lol.

    next time use common sense, and look up the president before Trump, and how long a presidential term is, before speaking? otherwise, you're making yourself look foolish. lmao.
     
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    But democrats know for a fact that these organizations can't be corrupt.

    Their proof is that these organizations go after Republicans and their Politicians and Trump, and that is all the facts that they need. duh? lol.
     
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    I read that far.
    First: that's not true.
    Second: We have a great Government protecting U.S. 24/7/365 - WORLD WIDE, and it's a bargain.
     
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    People are alway surprised when what goes around comes around. (see Zinoviev and Kamenev) or just ask Brian Stelter.
     
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    So Republicans need more than 4 years to charge a criminal? Control of Congress, the DoJ, the Supreme Court, the Presidency, appointing over a hundred judges and dozens of District Attorneys.... is not enough to charge (not even convict... just charge) even ONE Democrat of relevance with a crime?

    Your excuse is pathetic.

    "Democrats" (assuming your conspiracy theory had any credibility whatsoever) have done it in less than 3 years. In fact, they did it while REPUBLICANS were in power. They sent to jail more of the President's closest advisors to prison than those of ANY President in history. And they did it while Trump was still President. And the only reason they didn't send more is because they feared Trump would just pardon them (which, in fact, he did... preemptively)

    And they are likely to convict even a former President with less than 4 years in power... and not even having control of the courts. How's that for efficiency!

    You're new to this forum. Next time you might want to research your topics more thoroughly before you post. My sig provides very useful tips for next time. I highly recommend reading it.
     
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    what's not true? that people don't trust our government to at least some degree?

    have you told this to other people on this forum, because the majority that replied in my other op, don't agree with you.

    Do You Trust The Government? | PoliticalForum.com - Forum for US and Intl Politics
     
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    or brian williams. he always tells the truth. lol. yet he got a job on MSNBC, nbc's sister network. Still earning millions of dollars. However, he's not part of the 1 percent. nope. not part of the elite rich in America at all. He couldn't be, he's a democrat. lol
     
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    Right! Because people are either "gods" and "perfect", or they are complete criminals like Trump. The human intellect is not built to perceive anything in between.

    Oh God! Didn't we already have enough Republicans in this forum who can't understand the world unless it's presented to them in a binary form! I don't think we needed any more of those...
     
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    I don't think that you're excuses are "pathetic". :)

    Since I am newer, there is no possible way that I could be right. Right? you have perfect logic there. Darn, I just can't out logic, a season veteran of this site, like you.
     
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    if those agencies are corrupt, and i happen to agree that that there are elements of corruption or at least "rogue elements" in all of those agencies, why did not trump use his tenure to "drain the swamp? " he could have appointed honest people to lead the agencies with orders to fire anyone with the appearance of impropriety, but that is NOT how trump operates, is it?

    Trump Model Management - Wikipedia
     
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    Personally, I'm sorry that you are all black and white, and one side or the other, but I try and find the middle grey area. I pray, that you will some day as well.

    It's not good to take the Lord's name in vein. He created all of us. You're not suppose to do that. God forgives you.

    I thought that there were a lot more liberals on here, but now I think that there are more republicans coming back, or new ones coming here. yay for that!
     
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    trump didn't fire any of them! that sux.

    You're really smart. Thank you for that accurate useful information, that could only be known by a democrat.

    Andrew McCabe β€” FBI Director Fired By Trump β€” Gets Federal Pension (forbes.com)
     
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    There is only one secret: RESEARCH. Posting without doing the most basic research first is not going to get you far in this forum. Research doesn't have to be thorough (a simple Google search usually goes a long way), but it does need to be done before posting. Otherwise you leave yourself open to easy rebuttals by those who DO do the research.
     
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    So then why are you talking about "gods" and "perfect"?

    It's ok to correct yourself. We have all made mistakes in this forum. When I'm called out for making one, I usually deal with it by admitting it. Most posters here respect people who do that.

    Speaking of which...
    I'm an atheist, but it's not my intention to insult your religious beliefs. However, it's unavoidable that it will happen in this forum. You'll have to cut us some slack...
     
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