The courts are just sexist.....

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  1. Yant0s

    Yant0s Active Member

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    If you are speaking of majority, most men who fight for full custody lose because of gender.
     
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    True....most women are the primary caregivers of children. MOST men have full time careers .
     
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    And that is exactly how my friend lost his fight for full custody.

    So you're ok with the assumtion the father should have a career and the mother looking after the kids?

    Or is it only in family courts that it's acceptable as it grants the mother custody in a dispute?
     
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    Actually, chances are the father is a better parent.

    Women are responsible for the bulk of domestic violence against children.

    Looks like you're safer with dad.

    https://www.cdc.gov/violenceprevention/pdf/childmaltreatment-facts-at-a-glance.pdf

    In 2012, 54% of perpetrators were women and 45% of perpetrators were men

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/...y-women-is-more-common-than-previously-known/
     
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    vman12 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Not when it comes time to pick up the paycheck.

    Other than that, I'm guessing "yes".
     
  6. Renee

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    I am Curious in most cases, what do you think are the primary caregivers? Ask daycare workers. Ask schools who usually helps out. Ask who usually takes kids to after school programs. Ask parents what size the children wear. Etc. It doesn’t mean that there are not many wonderful fathers out there because there are and that is why more and more of them are getting joint custody. Interesting fact is that most young children prefer being with mothers.
     
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    In infancy.....when they get a few years older, it’s the fathers. I would imagine it would be the mothers because there are no fathers in most of those homes. I would bet that statistically they are female only caregivers
     
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    No. That's not what it says.

    Women commit more child abuse than men.
     
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    So you are reinforcing the stereotype the women should be at home looking after the kids and the dad should be focused on his career?
     
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    Yet they passionately advocate for the opposite roles. Go figure
     
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    I don’t know if it’s true, but I’ve heard 2 homes aren’t good for the kids. It seems like it would be...equal time with both parents.
    Joint custody where mom and dad truly work out what’s best for the kids is ideal.
     
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    No..only in infancy...men surpass in older children
    And I will bet anything that these women are in homes without fathers
     
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    I know lots of friends who have done this and they have worked an amicable solutions. When it isn’t amicable it’s awful.
     
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    I never said it should be women home looking after the kids. Let me simplify it for you with a question. Who is usually the stay at home parent? As roles become more diverse and men are not uncomfortable staying at home as homemakers we will see a difference.
     
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    I believe men and women are equally capable at raising children. As for who is the better parent it comes down to the individual and not the gender of the parent. I'm very clear on this....

    You however, make a long post giving examples of why women are better parents. Arguing the point that mothers do a better job at bringing up children and should mostly be considered for custody.

    Then a post later completly contradict yourself and say in a relationship the mother shouldn't automatically be assumed that they are the stay at home parent.


    Why is it good for one and not the other. Can you not see how hypocritical this is???

    It's either one or the other,

    Men women are equally capable at raising children, ita upto the individual.
    (This clearly demonstrates how your ideas that courts being bias in favour of the mother getting custody is plain wrong and sexist).

    OR

    Mothers should always be assumed to be responsible for being up children.
    (You but into this gender stereotype bullshit)

    Which is it???
     
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    Prove it.
     
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    Totally agree that a man can be just as good a parent as a woman.so why don’t men choose to be homemakers? My husband would have definitely been the better stay at home parent but he made so much more money than I did.
    Yes there is a gender stereotype but it is based in reality. Little girls are socialized from day one to be mothers. They are given baby dolls they are given toy stoves etc.In my prejudice workshop recently I asked Why they take away baby dolls from little boys because after all they will be fathers one day and one woman was very honest. She said I know how I should respond but I don’t want my son being made fun of.
    Did this lesson with high school kids and the boys said you have to take away dolls from boys because they will be gay. Then I asked them when should they take away toy trucks from girls?They said, why? I asked the .... won’t that make girls gay? I was being sarcastic but we all decided the word isn’t homophobia it’s femiphobia...being like a female is bad! Then you ask why men don’t choose to be homemakers? It Starts with dressing girls in pink...or any color. But never a boy in pink.
     
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    Google ......
     
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    I can agree with your entire post.... But it is not the point.

    I'm not denying that girls and boys are expected and influenced to act a certain way and conform to a gender stereotype. What you said I'd clearly true.


    What I am saying is, it is wrong from courts to use these stereotypes as a deciding factor in a case of which parent gets custody.

    So no "I didn't ask, why most men wanted to be homemakers? "

    I questioned the fact that why does the court not treat the man that wants to be a homemaker seriously, just because other men don't want it. It doesn't take anything away from the man that does want his children.

    Why cannot he be treated as an individual and not a stereotype?
     
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    You made the claim. It's up to you to back it up, or back up off of it.

    I already know the answer.
     
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    Courts do treat a man who wants to be a homemaker seriously. One of my friends is the primary caregiver for his children. He’s not technically a homemaker but he works at home and is there for his children. You are basing everything on one case and I think you should educate yourself about custody. It is not like it used to be. But you are denying that women are usually the caregivers for the children and that is why more women get custody. But men who are homemakers or seen as “wonderful” my nephew just told me that whenever he picks up his children at day care everyone’s fusses over him and tells him what a great dad he is but they never tell his wife what a wonderful mother she is. The bar is higher for a woman.
     
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    I suggest you share your knowledge with the justice dept ..obviously you know more

    murder victims. The average age among sons or daughters killed by a parent was 7 years, and 4 out of 5 victims killed by a parent were under age 13. Eight in ten murderers who killed a family member were male.
    fatal family violence - Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS)
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    That's murder.

    Not child abuse.
     
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    Family custody courts more often than not rule in favor of the woman, despite there having been plenty of cases of the woman abusing the children let lone the child support.

    There are few if any laws protecting men as men are seen as disposable, expendable. It's one of the reasons we are seeing this massive amount of MGTOW men, and women who are unhappy because they can't find the "right guy". A lot of otherwise good, caring and affectionate men are walking out because of being treated like garbage by women.

    If a whole gender is looked upon as expendable that gender is over time going to distance themselves out of self-interest and not wanting to be treated like utter crap.

    Feminism, #MeToo and women feeling self-entitled, narcissistic and unable to handle the power given to them through equal rights are some of the main causes of this.

    If you're going to be ugly on the inside people are going to avoid you, especially men who have no interest in being used, abused and then thrown away like a piece of trash.
     
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    I would Bet to wager that these are homes without fathers.And I guess we could turn it around and say that women are the primary nuturers
     

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