The Cowboy Church, Vol 2

So you were incorrect in your OP when you said they were a "congregation" and "popping up all over the country"?

I am curious. Why did your definition change? Is it because they, like seemingly every other religious sect in the world, attract a strangely high number of pedophiles into their ranks?

 

A congregation is merely a group of people. Maybe you're confusing that word with denomination?

They attract many more good folks than bad.

 

Well that is subjective, isn't it? Good being defined as what? Wearing Wranglers? Going to church to hear sermons about how it is not their fault they are bad Christians? Owning a copy of Ropin' the Wind?

 

I would say they need to attract bad folks, and then give them a hand in changing into a good person. Christ consorted with sinners, not the ones who believed they were already perfectly fine.

 

Great idea. Probably why the church chose this slogan...

Come as you are, leave changed.

 

no, I cannot do links on my phone. opening THIS site is not opening a link.

I do not care to read a sermon, so if you don't mind, for the umpteenth time, would you be a good christian and share with us how you guys are going to save america. just the bare bones mechanics of how it will happen. doesn't need to be paragraphs.

If you decline again I'll assume you don't have an answer, or don't believe whatever answer you have holds water. Which is, I suppose, the answer.

 

This forum is a link (politicalforum.com) and I post from a phone too. You don't have to read anything. The sermons are available in audio or video/audio. Every service is videotaped and available online. Or you can go back and read about some sermons in the past that so impressed me, I wrote about them on this thread. Then we'll have something new to argue about.

The library has free computers you can use if you're interested in hearing what the Cowboy Church is preaching about. I bet you'd be impressed too.

click on this screenshot... it'll take you right where you need to be.

 

Do the members tell people that Christ was The Truth, ... (no an truth, nor a series of truth, but the ideal of Truth itself)?

Do they explain that Rev Martin Luther King was the Truth on the matter of Civil Rights, and Abraham Lincoln was the Truth about slavery in the USA?

 

I don't want to watch, listen to, or read a sermon, but thanks.

You resist again, I see. Here's the thing, you claimed your pastor claimed that Christians would save America. I want to know how he/she expects this to happen. You've also not yet told me what 'damage' you referred to.

If someone told you they were going to save the world, you'd be curious to know how (and why). Ergo, if you don't like people asking questions then don't make grandiose claims.

 

it's highly unlikely. at least, no more impressed than you would be by a hindu priest waxing woo on how the elephant god Ganesha can help us realise the 7th plane of happiness.

 

Well, you learned politicalforum.com is a link. So even if you don't put anything else in your brain from this thread, there's that.

 

I didn't make the claim. The preacher's email address is at the link I posted. But he didn't make that claim either. You don't seem to understand that over 75% of Americans believe in God. We don't need a strategy... we just need to all stand up at the same time and say enough... with our votes.

You're trying to make it overly complex when it's really very simple. We've got the numbers to effect change. It's just a matter of everybody getting on the same page.

 

interesting. so it's political is it? well, that's probably a good thing, as it means democrats will remain in power. jesus was, after all, the greatest socialist who ever lived.

 

No, it's not political. Once again, you exaggerate while refusing to listen to the source. There was a brief mention of our troubled nation and the 1-10 scale was an illustration of how Christians downplay their dedication to their own personal beliefs. Else they risk being ridiculed and harassed by the minority of nonbelievers. He described it as being double-minded. People want to be good Christians, but not TOO good... just enough to be acceptable. He went on to use another example of people needing to lose weight and everyone knows exactly HOW to lose weight, but in order to do it, you have to sacrifice something you love and you feel deprived. Double-minded. A self-inflicted state of being. (my words, not his)

Sermons at the CC I attend are more life lessons than traditional religious services. Since many in the congregation are active military or vets, there's always an air of patriotism around that church. But there are NO political messages put forth. What you're confused about is the difference between conservatives and liberals. Not many liberals in this congregation.

 

you said America would be saved by VOTE. how is that not political? and how is noting that voting is an intrinsic element of politics an exaggeration?

meantime, if you've changed your mind and are now claiming the saving of America won't be via politics, would you mind telling me precisely how it will work. I think I've asked you at least five times ... still nothing.

I'd also like to know how your nation is 'troubled', and how you make the connection between this trouble and a lack of Christianity. you may be interested to know, incidentally, that many non-americans consider America's 'troubles' a result of too much Christianity. if they're wrong, please explain how.

finally, why do Christians think jesus was a conservative? and leave sex out of it, if you don't mind. no one cares what others do with their bits except smutty minded 14 year olds and people with far too much time on their hands.

 

Good night, crank. It's been a little touch of heaven.

 

too much work for ya?

cool. have a good sleep

 

Trying to use the pulpit for political reasons? Sounds like not a religion but a political movement and should not be tax exempt.
Deceitful, lying. The cowboy christian way?

This isn't a troubled nation at all. It is way better than it was just 100 yrs ago. So for you to say it is troubled is well, troubling.
Far more groups have far more rights than just 100 yrs ago.
If that is troubling to you, you need to stay out of the political arena and stay in your own little we all are alike world and not make it political.

 

I understand your concern. Unfortunately, short of burning down our churches, not a thing you can do to silence Christians in America. Although the pure hatred being expressed here sounds disturbingly familiar.

Like I said before, there is no political discussion from the pulpit. But there is no IRS rule against praying for our nation.

Yet.

 

Two Really Good posts ! Thank you! Luckily there are MANY people who agree with what you posted

 

What pure hatred are you referring to? My questioning the motives of this 'supposed church'?
You're the one who brought up how this church group was going to take back america. Restore I think are your words.

I don't think many outside your group wants to go back to whatever time frame you think was good for America. As I said, it is way way better than it was. Many more groups of people have rights that didn't have them before. Are you thinking those folks need to give back the rights they have achieved?
All the way back to making it so women can't vote? Just how far back to you want this restoration to go?

 

What you're questioning is bigger than this church. Fortunately, all your questions can be answered by listening to the sermon for yourself. It's all there for you.

Get back to me after you've done your homework. I'm not here to educate you.

 

In case anyone has trouble finding the truth.

 

A Church is only as Great as it's History and it's Pastor and
Parishioners.It you truly believe in what you say than next time
on a visit to Rome Go to Vatican City and St.Peter's Basilica.
Now there's a Church.Just browsing from outside that Great wall
is probably worth the trip.

 

One sermon does not an important church make.It takes a steady diet
of weekly sermons and the Parishioners carrying out the goodwill in
the Community.Basically that's it.