The Death Of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg Pushed Me To Join The Satanic Temple

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  1. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    Nope, this is not satire.. This is a real Huffpo writer turning to Satan because of RBG's death..

    And I thought the left couldn't go anymore bat chit crazy.. How wrong I was!

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    Err, um, they were already involved in Satanism. They just made it official.
     
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    It's a writer, not "the left." It's quite bizarre, but I find religion itself to be bizarre. It's questionable whether this even classifies as a religion.

    Members of the Satanic Temple do not believe in the supernatural or superstition. In the same way that some Unitarians and some Jews do not believe in God, Satanic Temple members do not worship Satan and most are atheists. They are not affiliated in any way with the Church of Satan. Instead, the Satanic Temple uses the devil as a symbol of rebellion.

    Just like other faiths, the Satanic Temple has a code that their members believe in deeply and use to guide their lives. These Seven Fundamental Tenets include that “one should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason,” that “the struggle for justice is an ongoing and necessary pursuit that should prevail over laws and institutions,” and that “one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone.”

    Reading through the Seven Tenets, I was struck by how closely they aligned with the unwritten code I had used to try to guide my own life for several years. I realized, happily, that these were my people and that I had been a Satanist for several years without even knowing it. When Justice Ginsburg’s death suddenly made combating the threats to reproductive rights and a government free from religious interference more urgent, I knew it was time to join them and support their conceptual and legal battles.
     
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  4. Bearack

    Bearack Well-Known Member

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    It's a writer for the vocally left wing news aggregator Huffington Post.
     
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    ChiCowboy Well-Known Member

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    I know. A writer, not a political ideology.
     
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    A writer with a political ideology and shares the same beliefs as your fellow brethren. Not all, but plenty bat chit crazy liberals.
     
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    This is BS...we all know leftwingers have turned to Satan years ago
     
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    My simple question for her is, does she feel she should be harassed, denigrated and chastised for her faith like she and the dems are about to do to RBG replacement?
     
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    Burzmali Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    The Satanic Temple is on the front lines of true religious freedom (and freedom from religion) in this country. If you're concerned about the theocracy that is coming our way when Trump and McConnell install Barrett on the SCOTUS, then joining the Temple is a good idea. When the Christian extremists do something nutty, like get all up in arms about wanting a religious invocation in an otherwise secular government process, the Satanic Temple is there to show everyone the implications of that since the government can't promote or discriminate against a religion. They're challenging religious privilege via absurdity.

    Some ignorant reactionaries may see this as silly, or might even be shocked because "OMG Satan?!?!," but it's really an act of protest to join a group that actually gets results.
     
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    Whats wrong with it? They use religious exemptions to show how Christians are favoured.

    Almost immediately I sought strength in the Satanic Temple’s efforts to turn religious arguments on their head by pushing for religious liberty for their members on an equal basis with believers in the dominant Christian faiths. And this is not just a theoretical push. The temple has launched campaigns and filed lawsuits to compel the government to do this in matters ranging from exemptions from legal mandates to cover birth control to the ability to display religious symbols in government buildings or allow religious clubs in public schools. By pointing out instances where the government has favored Christian rhetoric ― and filing legal challenges to stop it ― the Satanic Temple has transformed belief into action and has demonstrated what freedom fighting truly looks like.

    The Satanic Temple hopes to appear before the Supreme Court in a case challenging a Missouri abortion law that requires those seeking to terminate their pregnancy to first receive materials asserting that their abortion would end the life of a separate, unique person. The temple argues that these materials violate the deeply held religious beliefs of one of its members regarding bodily autonomy and scientifically reasonable personal choice. The argument the Satanic Temple is using is the same one the Supreme Court effectively endorsed in the Hobby Lobby birth control case, for which Justice Ginsburg wrote the dissent ― that no one should have to follow a law that violates their deeply held religious beliefs. If a Christian should not have to do so based on their religion, a Satanist should not have to either. This is what equality under the law means on a fundamental level.
     
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    I don't have brethren, and I laugh at bat **** crazy liberals, as well as bat **** ignorant alt right wingers.

    It's a humanist philosophy, not a political ideology. What about it do you disagree with? Outside of the name, of course.
     
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    Unreal but I unlike you, won't denigrate you for your satanic religion and that's probably the difference between us. I on the other hand think you should consider figuring out a better way to challenge what you term "religious privilege", because I believe the satanic temple has a little more to it that you think. We all have a right to believe what we believe and hate to tell you, no government should ever ever dictate what we believe and for that matter can only persecute beliefs because they change a belief.
     
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    Very enlightening. This certainly isn't a new idea - that "religious belief" is such a broad term that it can be rendered virtually meaningless in law - but this is the first time I've seen action on that idea.
     
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    Only someone who worships Satan could simultaneously believe that "one should strive to act with compassion and empathy toward all creatures in accordance with reason" and that it's totally cool to kill unborn children.
     
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    I'm so glad you got the irony of the post! I wanted to see if any others caught on to that...
     
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    Can you show me where the Temple says its "totally cool to kill unborn children"?
     
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    Well I have just discovered they have a chapter in the UK, I might well join.
     
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    Reproductive rights; what a misnomer. Killing and murdering life is not reproductive.
     
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    I don't see anyone denigrating anybody. That's not what this is about.

    Government is involved only to the extent a business owner's right to free exercise clashes with the government's right to regulate commerce. Nobody can dictate to anybody what to believe, especially government.

    It's about people not being bound by law which violates their religious beliefs. It's about time somebody stood up for this. If I am to take someone seriously, in this day and age, about an invisible omnipotent being who forbids abortion, then I must also take seriously someone who believes her body to be sacrosanct. Indeed, the latter belief is much more believable.
     
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    That's a religious belief, which is the point being made here. The Satanic Temple does not believe life begins at conception. Check. Your move.
     
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    I'm not a member, I'm just an atheist. And I don't denigrate anyone for their religion. There are plenty of good reasons to criticize many religions and their members. For instance, anyone who tithes to the Catholic church is supporting an organization that enables child rapists around the globe and protects them from legal action. Similarly, if there's something egreggious that the Satanic Temple does, it and its members should absolutely be criticized.

    As to challenging religious privilege, what would you suggest? When an organization receives government funding while being allowed to discriminate based on religion, and that has been given a pass by the supreme court, how else do you challenge that? How else do you bring attention to the lack of enforcement of laws that are supposed to keep the government secular (which protects all religions)? I 100% agree with you that we all have a right to believe what we believe, and that the government shouldn't dictate that to us. Keeping the government secular protects that.
     
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    They use euphemisms like "one’s body is inviolable, subject to one’s own will alone" or "protection for a woman’s right to choose and to control her body" and the even-more-galling "reproductive rights". Those are euphemisms for killing unborn children.
     
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    Freedom of religion is based on freedom and you are allowed to worship as you wish (individual right) as long as one does not infringe upon the rights of others. Killing a life is infringing upon that life as it given the right to life (Devine Right) under the Constitution. (Sovereign Right) Tax relief from the government granted by the people through the Congress is a (privileged right). Religions that establish themselves like human sacrifice or enslavement are not allowed.
     
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    So they do not say it is "totally cool to kill unborn children" I thought you had made that up.
     
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    When does it begin? Educate me.
     

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