The Defamation Law...

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    http://injury.findlaw.com/torts-and-personal-injuries/defamation-law-the-basics.html

    Defamation Law: The Basics

    The term defamation .....called "libel." Elements of a Defamation Lawsuit etc...

    Question? Could each thing on the Web that says America needs to be 'killed' be considered defamation? Could any web sites which 'lie' about events be considered defamation? Could web sites that steer a person away from the truth be considered defamation? Let's see some examples of what I mean. If a news article about Omar Mateen was published with 'facts' of the gun he used in his shooting were found to be an untruth, would that be defamation to the general reader's lack of knowledge? So, did he use sid semi-automatic assault rifle or did he use another one?

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    let's try another one. The Christina Grimme murder. Was she really shot while going to give her murderer a 'hug?'

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    another one... has mr. mateen's statement of running for president for Afghan next year, even possible? If not, why was it printed in the news? To make him look like a nut?

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    and if so, why is America housing a possible future president of Afghanistan when his son murdered in the night club?

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    so, if i address my wondering of publicly printed material about certain peoples, such as Mark Zuckerberg, and something doesn't seem right in the already published material, is it illegal for me to point them out?

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    I have not personally conjured up any so-called 'facts', I have only used what America has provided for me..

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    so.. is it possible to become a licensed pediatrician in 8 years?

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    entering into med school in 2008 would make it 8 years in 2016.

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    if someone has an answer, then maybe.. there could be some knowledge shared to people who might be interested in the Pediatrics field for themselves..
     
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    Education
    General - As a Pediatrician, you will ALWAYS be learning!
    After high school, you need 4 years of undergraduate courses at a college or university (which will get you a BS, BA, or other Bachelor's degree). After completing college, you will need to attend 4 years of Medical School (which will get you an MD or DO degree). After this, you are a "general" doctor.

    I didn't know it only took 4 years of med school to be able to be a doctor.. http://www.yourpediatrician.com/BecomingAPed.htm

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    to be a general doctor, not specialized of course.. sheesh..
     
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    it might even be quicker to finish med school and become a general doctor than finish grad school and earn a Masters.
     
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    so according to this Harvard statistics for the 2015 Yr. Graduate Program enrollment, the average time spent before graduating from a Graduate Program is 6 years. This is average which means some graduate quicker and others graduate later.

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    but, to my recollection, I believe if 2 full committed years are dedicated, you can graduate in 2 years.

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    so being in Medical School where the curriculum is strict and layed out, it might be as if you are still in undergraduate school..

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    unless you ask for an extension upon the end of 4 years...

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    shucks.... if I wasn't told that it would take 6-8 more years after my B.A to be a doctor, I might have chosen to be one...

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    someone may have deliberately kept me away from being a doctor by lying to me and saying it takes 6 or more years, and now I read it only takes 4 which is quicker to graduate in than a Masters... My goodness, my head must be in the sands of lala-ness

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    well.. all i know is that I'm not a licensed doctor. Even a general one..

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    well.. all i know is that I'm not a licensed doctor. Even a general one..

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    wait a minute..... UNLESS.... the Med School requirements have changed.... that would make sense..

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    sorry.. i meant to say unless the medical training requirements have changed.... that would make sense..
     
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    and who sets the requirement core in Medical school studies? Department of Education or Board of Physicians? or the International Physician's Association?

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    would a pediatrician here be allowed to practice pediatrics in Germany?
     
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    and/or visa-versa all around the globe. The Hippocratic Oath...

    ὄμνυμι Ἀπόλλωνα ἰητρὸν καὶ Ἀσκληπιὸν καὶ Ὑγείαν καὶ Πανάκειαν καὶ θεοὺς πάντας τε καὶπάσας, ἵστορας ποιεύμενος, ἐπιτελέα ποιήσειν κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμὴν ὅρκον τόνδε καὶσυγγραφὴν τήνδε:

    ἡγήσεσθαι μὲν τὸν διδάξαντά με τὴν τέχνην ταύτην ἴσα γενέτῃσιν ἐμοῖς,καὶ βίου κοινώσεσθαι, καὶ χρεῶν χρηΐζοντι μετάδοσιν ποιήσεσθαι, καὶ γένος τὸ ἐξ αὐτοῦἀδελφοῖς ἴσον ἐπικρινεῖν ἄρρεσι, καὶ διδάξειν τὴν τέχνην ταύτην, ἢν χρηΐζωσι μανθάνειν,ἄνευ μισθοῦ καὶ συγγραφῆς, παραγγελίης τε καὶ ἀκροήσιος καὶ τῆς λοίπης ἁπάσης μαθήσιοςμετάδοσιν ποιήσεσθαι υἱοῖς τε ἐμοῖς καὶ τοῖς τοῦ ἐμὲ διδάξαντος, καὶ μαθητῇσισυγγεγραμμένοις τε καὶ ὡρκισμένοις νόμῳ ἰητρικῷ, ἄλλῳ δὲ οὐδενί.

    διαιτήμασί τε χρήσομαιἐπ᾽ ὠφελείῃ καμνόντων κατὰ δύναμιν καὶ κρίσιν ἐμήν, ἐπὶ δηλήσει δὲ καὶ ἀδικίῃ εἴρξειν.

    οὐδώσω δὲ οὐδὲ φάρμακον οὐδενὶ αἰτηθεὶς θανάσιμον, οὐδὲ ὑφηγήσομαι συμβουλίην τοιήνδε: ὁμοίως δὲ οὐδὲ γυναικὶ πεσσὸν φθόριον δώσω.

    ἁγνῶς δὲ καὶ ὁσίως διατηρήσω βίοντὸν ἐμὸν καὶ τέχνην τὴν ἐμήν.

    οὐ τεμέω δὲ οὐδὲ μὴν λιθιῶντας, ἐκχωρήσω δὲ ἐργάτῃσιν ἀνδράσι πρήξιος τῆσδε.

    ἐς οἰκίας δὲ ὁκόσας ἂν ἐσίω, ἐσελεύσομαι ἐπ᾽ ὠφελείῃκαμνόντων, ἐκτὸς ἐὼν πάσης ἀδικίης ἑκουσίης καὶ φθορίης, τῆς τε ἄλλης καὶ ἀφροδισίωνἔργων ἐπί τε γυναικείων σωμάτων καὶ ἀνδρῴων, ἐλευθέρων τε καὶ δούλων.

    ἃ δ᾽ ἂν ἐνθεραπείῃ ἢ ἴδω ἢ ἀκούσω, ἢ καὶ ἄνευ θεραπείης κατὰ βίον ἀνθρώπων, ἃ μὴ χρή ποτεἐκλαλεῖσθαι ἔξω, σιγήσομαι, ἄρρητα ἡγεύμενος εἶναι τὰ τοιαῦτα.
    ὅρκον μὲν οὖν μοι τόνδεἐπιτελέα ποιέοντι, καὶ μὴ συγχέοντι, εἴη ἐπαύρασθαι καὶ βίου καὶ τέχνης δοξαζομένῳ παρὰπᾶσιν ἀνθρώποις ἐς τὸν αἰεὶ χρόνον: παραβαίνοντι δὲ καὶ ἐπιορκέοντι, τἀναντία τούτων.[4]

    I swear by Apollo The Healer, by Asclepius, by Hygieia, by Panacea, and by all the Gods and Goddesses, making them my witnesses, that I will carry out, according to my ability and judgment, this oath and this indenture.

    To hold my teacher in this art equal to my own parents; to make him partner in my livelihood; when he is in need of money to share mine with him; to consider his family as my own brothers, and to teach them this art, if they want to learn it, without fee or indenture; to impart precept, oral instruction, and all other instruction to my own sons, the sons of my teacher, and to indentured pupils who have taken the physician’s oath, but to nobody else.

    I will use treatment to help the sick according to my ability and judgment, but never with a view to injury and wrong-doing. Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, nor will I suggest such a course. Similarly I will not give to a woman a pessary to cause abortion. But I will keep pure and holy both my life and my art. I will not use the knife, not even, verily, on sufferers from stone, but I will give place to such as are craftsmen therein.

    Into whatsoever houses I enter, I will enter to help the sick, and I will abstain from all intentional wrong-doing and harm, especially from abusing the bodies of man or woman, bond or free. And whatsoever I shall see or hear in the course of my profession, as well as outside my profession in my intercourse with men, if it be what should not be published abroad, I will never divulge, holding such things to be holy secrets.
    Now if I carry out this oath, and break it not, may I gain for ever reputation among all men for my life and for my art; but if I transgress it and forswear myself, may the opposite befall me.[5]

    Modern version


    I swear to fulfill, to the best of my ability and judgment, this covenant:...

    I will respect the hard-won scientific gains of those physicians in whose steps I walk, and gladly share such knowledge as is mine with those who are to follow.

    I will apply, for the benefit of the sick, all measures which are required, avoiding those twin traps of overtreatment and therapeutic nihilism.

    I will remember that there is art to medicine as well as science, and that warmth, sympathy, and understanding may outweigh the surgeon's knife or the chemist's drug.

    I will not be ashamed to say "I know not," nor will I fail to call in my colleagues when the skills of another are needed for a patient's recovery.

    I will respect the privacy of my patients, for their problems are not disclosed to me that the world may know. Most especially must I tread with care in matters of life and death. Above all, I must not play at God.

    I will remember that I do not treat a fever chart, a cancerous growth, but a sick human being, whose illness may affect the person's family and economic stability. My responsibility includes these related problems, if I am to care adequately for the sick.

    I will prevent disease whenever I can, for prevention is preferable to cure.

    I will remember that I remain a member of society, with special obligations to all my fellow human beings, those sound of mind and body as well as the infirm.
    If I do not violate this oath, may I enjoy life and art, respected while I live and remembered with affection thereafter. May I always act so as to preserve the finest traditions of my calling and may I long experience the joy of healing those who seek my help.
    Written in 1964 by Louis Lasagna, Academic Dean of the School of Medicine at Tufts University, and used in many medical schools today

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    Hippocrates is often called the father of medicine in Western culture. The original oath was written in Ionic Greek, in the late Fifth Century BC.[1] It is usually included in the Hippocratic Corpus.

    Scholars widely believe that Hippocrates or one of his students wrote the oath between the 5th and 3rd century BC.[2] Alternatively, classical scholar Ludwig Edelstein proposed that the oath was written by the Pythagoreans, an idea that others questioned for lack of evidence for a school of Pythagorean medicine.[3]

    Ancient Greek 101...
     
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    so basically the very first Greek word of the Original Hippocratic Oath being ὄμνυμι means omnymi in Today's English... https://translate.google.com/#auto/en/ὄμνυμι

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    but the translation is given as 'I.' in the translated English text... Really?

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    do you have to learn Ancient Greek to pass Med School?

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    then how would any one know what Hippocrates really wrote if I can't read and understand the letters? Anyone can translate it for me.. shucks.. in fact, i may have a 'truer' translation... who knows.. maybe I have an ancient greek to english translator next to me?

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    do you know that I MAY not? or do think I might? hmmmm....
     
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    http://www.hawaiifreepress.com/Arti...age-appropriate-or-complete-on-STD-risks.aspx

    Pono Choices not medically accurate, age appropriate, or complete on STD risks
    By Rep Bob McDermott @ 8:08 PM :: 3696 Views :: Education K-12, Family, Health Care
    “A review of Pono Choices confirmed the curriculum is medically accurate, appropriate and aligned with health education, state law and DOE policy.”

    ".....The anus is presented as genitalia, just another sexual organ. This is another example of forced “equality” by ignoring the natural function of the rectum and anus. Therefore “political” correctness dictates that the male rectum and the female vagina are “equal” in terms of being sexual organs. This totally ignores the obvious facts of human biology and reproduction...."

    This is from 2014 which is kinda past but not too past...

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    Representative Bob McDermott has tried for over 45 days to get a copy of the Pono Choices sex education curriculum currently being presented to 11-year-old public school children. After weeks of bureaucratic run-around McDermott finally received a copy of the requested materials which arrived on January 3, 2014 and has completed his review of its content.

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    A politician trying to discover the 'truth' of what a genital is from the Physician's point of knowledge??

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    and no physician wants to help?? So, is the anus a genital or not??

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    I'm past 11 years old and i guess I still haven't been told the truth.. And I guess Bob McDermott hadn't either..

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    when they say that kids are smarter than adults, I guess they might be right, huh?
     
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    Overview


    Dr. Priscilla Chan is a pediatrician in San Francisco, California and is affiliated with multiple hospitals in the area, including San Franciso Veterans Affairs Medical Center and UCSF Medical Center. She received her medical degree from University of California San Francisco School of Medicine and has been in practice between 3-5 years. She is one of 13 doctors at San Franciso Veterans Affairs Medical Center and one of 197 at UCSF Medical Center who specialize in Pediatrics.
    http://health.usnews.com/doctors/priscilla-chan-895447

    https://beta.healthgrades.com/provider/priscilla-chan-csoaz

    Is she practicing yet??? How many Priscilla Chan Pediatricians are there in the palo alto area???
     
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    The wife of Mark Zuckerberg finished her residency last year... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Priscilla_Chan_(philanthropist) Which would mean that the earliest year for her to have received her practicing license would have been 2015 after her residency finished. Then she would have went and have taken the test.

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    Once one graduates from med school, one begins training with a year of "internship". This is almost never a program unto itself anymore, but rather an anachronistic term applied to the 1st year of a multi-year "residency" program. In most states, finishing this year, regardless of its composition, makes the physician eligible for unrestricted licensure, assuming they have passed all 3 parts of the boards. [example: General Practitioner]

    Residency then is the heart and soul of the post graduate training system, with many different types of programs leading to the many different specialties. Typically, residencies are between 3 and 7 years and involve a very deep commitment of time and effort (and sleepless nights) for very little recompense. Successfully finishing an approved program makes one "board eligible" in that specialty and the graduate may then begin to practice wherever they have become licensed. Any time down the road they may take the board and if successful, convert their designation to "board certified". [example: Pediatrician]

    For those specialists who wish to become more narrowly focused, they may then go on to another level of post graduate training known as "fellowship". The fellowship period is generally an additional 2-4 years of residency-like existence; its successful completion allows the physician to become a subspecialist. Another set of boards is involved at this level as well. [example: Cardiologist]

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    so after 2015 she became board eligible, according to this ??? http://talk.collegeconfidential.com/careers-medicine/755-what-happens-after-med-school.html

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    so remember... when visiting a doctor.. make sure they are board certified and not board eligible...

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    Medical Licensure

    http://www.ama-assn.org/ama/pub/education-careers/becoming-physician/medical-licensure.page
     
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    whatever you do.. please do not let mrs. zuckerberg know I am investigating her medical school background.. if i had investigated mr. obama's missing birth certificate and school transcripts before he was elected in, maybe things may have been different...

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    so after 2 full Presidential terms, what was the answer? Was he or Was he not born on American soil?

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    has his birth certificate been located or has it not as of yet??

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    did they bother asking his mom or family if they had a copy of his birth certificate? How else would they have sent him through all the schooling and driver's licensing, etc while he was growing up???

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    please don't tell me he was carrying it on his person after he got his drivers license.

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    does the DMV have a photo copy of it?

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    so... if there is a doctor who i might trust my baby child with, I better not just 'like' their attitude.

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    some doctors even call themselves 'god.' 'i am the judge, juror and executioner or giver of life, they say... ' forgot about those ones??
     
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    so if you personally have not run into strange situations.... then you would not know what I am talking about... is the migrant crisis in Europe real or photochopped all over Youtube?
     
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    so, what would be more necessary? A person having proper credentials or not? Excuse me sir, but may I see your vetting papers?
     
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    Could the U.K have left the E.U. because they were getting just too many migrants sent to them??? If, of course, the videos are not edited.. So is Mohammad really the #1 name of newborn males in the U.K. now?

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    Since when would the English desire to name their babies with arabic names? it's like arabics wanting to name their babies with German names...

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    just makes no sense...
     
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    Muhammed really is most popular baby name in the UK - as is Mohammed, Muhammad...

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...n-the-uk-as-is-mohammed-muhammad-9895605.html

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    so.. 51 Billion $$$$ is a lot of monies to be carrying around at 32 years of age.

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    several ways to take this:

    From a pessimist look: Oh, look. He's saying I should donate..

    From an optimistic look: Oh, look. He's saying I have ability to do something.

    From a pragmatic look: I guess i can help somehow.

    From a paranoid look: Are they going to try to steal it?

    From a runaway look: We better get out of here...
     
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    I'm not pin pointing the Zuckerbergs, but do they live in a safe neighborhood? Gated and guarded? Because from the way it sounds from the articles I keep reading about them, they are very humble people who would not want to live in a fancy place nor in a fancy lifestyle...

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    that's just the picture I get when i read about them, their wedding, her schooling, etcc.. they met at a frat party waiting for the bathroom.. how much more down to college American can you get??

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    so if he was frat, would she have been sorority? Or were they pledging?

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    it would have had to have been during pledge week.
     
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    Priscilla Chan is a daughter to Vietnamese immigrants. She grew up speaking their language. She attended high school,, she speaks 3 languages proficiently She learned spanish because alot of her patients speak it.. Chan learned Spanish after realizing that so many of her patients spoke Spanish: “You can be a better provider and really connect better with individuals if you can speak their language, and so I started studying Spanish in college, and get lots of practice in my work.” http://www.today.com/money/meet-pri...-we-learned-about-mark-zuckerbergs-2D79731310 she got her residence completed last year, 2015. okay... she is one text book smart lady. I bet her parents are nothing but proud. Does anyone know any information on her parents? Why is there no mention of them anywhere if she is traditional chinese/vietnamese?

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    who were her patients while she was going to college?

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    is she being endorsed by other physicians? is that why there is no talk about these strange articles?

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    oh.. I see... she really doesn't have a private office in a building somewhere...

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    what I'm trying to say is that She Doesn't have the endorsement and the backing of other physicians...

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    so why would all this very humble demure projection be coming across if she isn't being supported by other physicians??

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    maybe they like her?

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    maybe she IS a good pediatrician...
     
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    i don't know... i went into my brand new doctor's office and he had degrees from UC Los Angeles, UH manoa. He said he did orthopedic surgery, but tuned down to do general . He has licenses for acupuncture, is a certified massage therapist, black belt in martial arts, is part psychiatrist, is a writer for the newspaper, and some others.. He is only 52 years old. He is the director of a clinic, involved with homeopathic medicine, etc... wow... I guess anything is possible.. oh yeah, the surgery part, he has a thing on the wall for that too..

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    what was it called... something something ... licensed to perform surgery?? something?? i forget...

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    board certified surgeon?

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    is that it?

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    and so i go back into his office for a follow up.. he tells me, after I asked him if he had been busy, that he had already seen multiple cancer patients, thyroid malfunctionings, liver? ... and it was 1 in the afternoon.

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    And i thought ... wow.. a lot of ill people were in this room..

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    what if one of them had tuberculosis? or an airborne virus?

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    or HIV and left some blood on the seat?

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    i was just ... wow...

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    but you see, i didn't sign up for a special surgeon, I signed up for a regular PCP.
     
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    so on my first visit, after I see all his awards and wall diplomas, I ask him, it must have cost you a little fortune to get past all the med school.. he said yeah. but i find out the other day that he is 52 years old but a black belt, which means he's in pretty flexible good shape.

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    so... what's real and what's not?
     

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