The Democratic Socialists of America Have Actual Political Power. What Will They Do With It?

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  1. GoogleMurrayBookchin

    GoogleMurrayBookchin Active Member

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    Please continue to believe that. Stay at home and don't bother participating in any right-wing organizing because it'd be so pointless.
     
  2. Xtremenerd

    Xtremenerd Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure what point you are trying to make is, but I am very politically active
     
  3. One Mind

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    No sanders is not this generation's Saul, but might be another Eugene Debs.

    Remember back during the great depression when millions were suffering from a lack of jobs there were growing movements of socialism, communism, as a reaction to the failure of capitalism to keep people off of soup lines, and a suffering not seen before in america. When capitalism no longer serves the People, you need someone like FDR to once again save capitalism. We need such people now, given how capitalism has been used to concentrate wealth at the top again, how it is being used to destroy our middle class, by not allowing americans to make what they consume. If you take away our own people making what they consume, and providing services, when there can never be enough jobs, a hard fact which so many seem to ignore. Shipping away that part of our economy that paid living wages was bound to lead to democratic socialism becoming more popular. Clearly, the current globalism which guts out the ability of our people to feed themselves is not sustainable. And our politicians should have been smart enough to realize that before they started dismantling the new deal model and turned our economy over to a few elites at the top, the banking cabal. This great change is what led to the death of our republic and oligarchy replacing it. We are ruled over by damned fascists. As the voters in both parties fight over much more important issues, like allowing men to use the women's bathroom because they claim they are not men, but women.
     
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    Give it up, these people willingly, deceitfully use "socialism" as a blanket to cover what they detest. LOL Either that, or they got their education on socialism from others who are clueless too, and just parrot what they hear.

    These countries in europe, northern europe who are said to use democratic socialism still have economies that are capitalism. But with some on the right, if you have a Commons, oh no, your nation is living under socialism. LOL So, they are either liars, or just half ass educated. I would rather believe it is just a lack of education.
     
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    Why use venezuela instead of using nations where the people are happier and it is a success. Like some of those nordic area nations?

    The trouble with venezuela is leadership, corruption, and the bottom feel out with oil prices. And of course we are involved covertly in trying to take down the gov't. You know, like we always do? LOL

    And it is more than just a recession, it is the hollowing out of our economy which serves to keep people off of welfare and provide for americans to thrive by their work. And the truth is, what you call a recession is not going away but will get worse unless we get in leadership that will reverse the destruction of the american economy. Short of that, if you pay attention to history, we are in for some revolutionary times as this society comes apart at the seams. Someone like an FDR needs to step up and save capitalism once again. But this time it involved much more and those forces FDR had to take on are exponentially more powerful today. After all, they have basically destroyed our republic and given us oligarchy. And by just watching what trump ran into, we can see just how powerful this oligarchy is today. For what trump campaigned on, has mustered this oligarchy against him. This could not be more self evident.

    While the right was so damn worried over socialism, when that was never a threat, fascism slid in, and hardly anyone saw it coming. This fascism has opened the door for socialism with the younger generations who will one day have power, although I doubt if they could ever beat this oligarchy. Not without a real revolution, but our national security state like no time in history is in place to crush that.

    I think we are ****ed in this post 1984 america.
     
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    If Social Democrats and Democratic Socialists have their way, the USA will be just like Norway, Sweden and Denmark.
     
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    To reach the goals of socialism it is not necessary to have the central government own the means of production, distribution, and exchange when it can impose such strict centrally-directed regulation that the end result of centralized planning of the economy results.

    And historically, the result has not been good.
     

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