The end of abortion finally arrives

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  1. Black Irish

    Black Irish Banned

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    Abortion is forced upon the child without their ability to consent, so in that sense it's no different than producing child pornography.

    The only 'debate' is whatever is minimally necessary to determine which factors in the matter are actually related to the concerns of "life being taken", as opposed to ones which aren't about the "life" issue but are concerns over negative social effects of abortion or moral issues not regarding the 'life" factor. This is what the federal government can regulate, while other more intricate issues can be left up to the states.

    Any "debates" on the issue that want to subvert or ignore the "life" factor are worthless and shouldn't even be considered to begin with, once that garbage is out of the way, then maybe we can purport to have a civilized discussion on the topic.
     
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    What “child”?
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    The vast majority of women have an abortion in the first 8 weeks.
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    And with the introduction of “medical” abortions that time frame is lowering.
     
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    Right, and I'm sure that all that banning child porn does is "drive it underground" as well.

    If it came down to it, I'd support population control against demographics which are more likely to have abortions before I'd support unrestricted elective abortion.

    For example, state-mandated vasectomies for individuals of those demographics which can only be reversed upon legal approval by a court.
     
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    Population control against demographics ?! LOL not comparable to abortion.
     
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    There is no child involved in abortion.


    BTW, do you think abortion started in 1973?
     
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    Hmmm and let me guess those vasectomies would not apply universally but only to people with darker skin
     
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    FALSE equivalence FALLACIES!

    An abortion is a MEDICAL PROCEDURE!

    Medical procedures are NOT crimes.

    Are YOU going to make it a CRIME for women to have MISCARRIAGES which are IDENTICAL to an abortion?
     
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    Speaking of demographics do YOU have any idea how many CHRISTIANS obtain abortions?

    54%!

    That is a MAJORITY of those having abortions are CHRISITIANS.

    Furthermore ONE out of every FOUR of those self identifies as being an EVANGELICAL.

    https://www.guttmacher.org/article/2020/10/people-all-religions-use-birth-control-and-have-abortions
    DRACONIAN measures against MALES without their CONSENT is going to end BADLY for anyone who tries IMPOSING that crap on them.
     
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    'Tis a SHAME that to the Left that noble concept ONLY applies to abortion....:roll:
     
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    But yet you're FINE with DRACONIAN measures against ANYONE who won't CONSENT to being a lab rat. Figures. :rolleyes:
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    Maybe , but definitely not the end of abortion.

    Wealthy women will always have abortion available and abortion for the middle class and poor will just go undergound to safe havens.



    What's worse than coat hangers is the FACT that women would lose A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT , THE RIGHT TO BODILY AUTONOMY as Ant-Choicers celebrate...

    ...and those who don't fight this just may be surprised at who they come for next.


    And raped women and pregnant women with health problems will suffer and die for the Big Crimes of Having Sex and Becoming Pregnant..


    It's a travesty that the Right thinks that no vaccinations have ever been mandatory and have no concept of the right to bodily autonomy.

    How they protest a shot but expect others to be forced to actually harm their own body.


    Tis a shame you couldn't address the actual contents of my post ....:)
     
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    Ya, I caught what "demographics" he's referring to ;)
     
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    Abortion does NOT spread diseases to other people so your attempt at DEFLECTION regarding vaccinations FAILS.

    Sad!
     
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    As per the above abortion does NOT spread diseases to other people so your attempt at DEFLECTION regarding vaccinations FAILS.

    Sad!
     
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    Because if they destroy women's right to bodily autonomy they can do anything they want to women...
     
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    Women are considered 2nd class and can be controlled by the government.
     
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    According to the righties....yup.
     
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    Show us your proof?
     
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    The GOP has a platform outside of God, Guns and Abortion???
     
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    There is now.

    I don't think rape did either.
     
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    FoxHastings said:
    There is no child involved in abortion.



    No, biology hasn't changed.

    What does that have to do with "BTW, do you think abortion started in 1973?"..?


    YOUR thread title "The end of abortion finally arrives"


    alluding to the fall of RvW, indicates you think abortion started with RvW .


    It didn't start then and it won't end even if the Supreme Court does throw out the Constitution and deny rights to 51% of the population.

    So your title is clearly in error...
     
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    No actual “child” a potential one - maybe, maybe not
     
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    Yes "the child", and at what stage does an embryo become a child?
     
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    At what elite college did you take mental acrobatics to pull this one off? Mamma mia.
     
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    You forgot immigration. :D
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