The End of Abortion in America is Coming Soon

The science is settled. Life begins at conception. As people become more educated about the actual scientific facts about life in the womb more and more people will identify as pro-life. This is already occurring and will only become a more rapid transition because of the videos released about Planned Parenthood's profiting off of the sale of baby body parts.

The abortion issue is transforming from a right of women to "choose" to a civil rights movement for the recognition of the rights of preborn children to 5th and 14th Amendment rights to life and equal protection under the law.

These are modern times and given the many methods of contraceptive birth controls there is no excuse for unplanned pregnancies. Women who have been using abortion as a solution for their negligence will find it harder to punish their babies with death for their own lack of responsibility.

Abortion will be a thing of the past sooner, rather than later.

 

Hahahahahahahaha! You are joking, right?

 

Abortion was once illegal in the US.
That did not stop abortions in the US.
Your statement is therefor based on a flawed premise. Outlawing abortion does not end abortion.

You go home now. No soup, one year.

 

You really have no facts to back up your assertion. Some states allowed abortions before Roe v Wade, but the number of abortions exploded after Roe v Wade.

 

Gallup Poll: 55% of Americans Want All or Most Abortions Made Illegal

Why would I be joking. Are you a science denier?

 

Operation Jane - 12,000 illegal abortions in the US between 1969 and 1973.
Since abortion was illegal, probably not going to find accurate records of the number of illegal abortions. But looking at the rise in maternal mortality rates during
the Great Depression, it would be a probability that illegal abortions were on the rise with economic problems.

So yes, there were a number of illegal abortions in the US while laws existed against legal abortion.
It's like saying - no illegal drugs were taken because they were illegal ... silly assertion.

 

The number of abortions after Roe v Wade was approximately the same as before Roe v Wade. Women don't, didn't, and won't ask the "state" for permission for an abortion. We would prefer they remain legal as legal abortions are inevitably safer than illegal ones, but we will have abortions whether they are safe or dangerous. There are plenty of facts about women dying and being injured from illegal abortions before Roe, and statistics show that abortion is much safer now.

 

The poll you linked states that only 19% of Americans want abortion illegal in all circumstances.
It indicates that 51% feel that abortion should be legal in all or MOST circumstances.

What? Did you think you could get away with misrepresentation of the poll numbers?

 

That's terrible news. Abortion is the #1 contributor to the sharp decline in crime since the 1970's. People who would stoop so low as to kill their own offspring have no business raising children anyway.

 

No, they didn't and you have never proven they did. You 're just repeating all the crap you tried before and were shown to be wrong.

Science isn't "settled"....NO one has proven life begins at conception...it started long before that as a matter of fact.



Just like you will never explain how making abortion illegal will make abortion a "thing of the past"....


Why don't you explain IN DETAIL what EXACTLY you will do to end abortion....

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You are in the wrong forum, this is the abortion forum, no one kills their "offspring" in abortion.

But thank you for your support for women's right to choice.

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He's tried so many many times and hasn't yet

 

I have always been a staunch supporter of women's right to choose, primarily because it is indisputable that the women who are making this choice are, on par, benefiting society by doing so. And, those other women who, with their doctor, decide they have no other choice, should have a safe, clean medical facility to have it done. And it should be a self sustaining business, without need for any taxpayer support. If that means selling 'parts' to the Soylent factory, then that's what it means. I'm OK with it.

 

Outlawing abortion will stop abortions the way outlawing marijuana stopped people smoking it. All it would do is

1. assure middle class and upper class women can have abortions by traveling and poor women can't, meaning laws to force poor women to have poor children to service the wealthy and
2. Establish another massive level of underground illegal medical procedures and drugs with the corresponding increase in crime, need for more police, and imprisoning more Americans.

As much as people want government to be their God doing their will on others, it will remain in human nature to resist being enslaved and controlled. As more and more Americans on the right and left look to government to be authoritarian imposing their will on others the USA will continue to build more prisons. Land of Imprisoned and Home of the Regulated.
It is curious how many conservatives want government to have the power of God over women, and then go berserk if anyone suggests the government should have power over gun ownership and usage as a violation of a fundamental right.

 

It'll never happen, not for at least 20 - 30 years. Millennials are for the most part not religious. They care more about legalizing marijuana than anything else, not the civil rights of a fetus. I don't think they are having record numbers of abortions and most are utilizing birth control..however this is an amoral generation being raised in a culture shaped by the amoral baby boomers.

That is not to say they are immoral, just amoral. They are not grounded in any sort of absolutism as it rleates to rights and wrongs...tolerance of any and all appears to be the norm. They are direct by-products of the trophy for last place, My two Dads textbooks taught in public schools. The men are more like women and the women are more like men...essentially a uni-sex generation that appears solely concerned about cannabis, gay and trans-sexual rights...not much else.

As they now, demographically outnumber baby boomers, I see a growing rift between those who are pro-life and those who are pro-choice.

I'm not saying this is a good thing, but it makes no sense to deny reality either. As I say though, I do think Millennials are less apt to have lots of sex partners and more use birth conrol, thus lower or at least stable rates of abortion.

 

Someone like you says this pretty much every day...and has for decades, How's that workin' for 'ya.

The thing is here (and the primary reason it will never happen), is that to grant said rights to a Zygote or Fetus, you must remove the rights of the woman it lives within.

 

Or poor people don't get good medical care and are malnourished. Next.

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Assumes facts not in evidence.

 

It says what it says. Once again, the science is not debatable. It is settled science. Life begins at conception. Once people are educated, they will choose to be pro-life. There is no need to argue with the science deniers.

It was a scientific poll which says that 55% of people want all or most abortions made illegal.

 

Something new to learn:

Post hoc ergo propter hoc

 

Why don't you read up on the history of abortion in the US?

 

The most highly educated group of Americans is pro-choice. Explain that...



http://www.gallup.com/poll/154946/non-christians-postgrads-highly-pro-choice.aspx

 

Don't be silly. I have provided graphs and statistics many times. I won't waste my time on a science denier like you because you just deny the facts even when I present them with links and all.

Once abortion is outlawed and people are educated about life in the womb, abortion will be rightfully stigmatized as murder, infanticide, and child abuse. Women will no longer be abused by their husbands or mates and have to endure the abuse of forced abortions. Making it illegal is the first step, education is the key.

Abortion by it's very definition is the termination of the unborn offspring in the womb.

 

What rights are removed from a woman? The right to murder?

 

The original poster is largely right with early enough sexual education that is comprehensive and ready access when young to free long lasting birth control options and when older naturally the need for abortion is minimal limited to underage incest (if an adult you chose to but a minor child is a victim), rape and the life of the mother all rare enough to be special considerations. Otherwise your splaying your legs as a woman unprotected its a choice you made, and should face the consequences if its a pregnancy since you clearly wanted to risk it.

I'm an Atheist and must weigh the future needs of society of the unborn future child to the society as a working unit which has value, its like a clean source of drinking water or a vein of valued ore its a resource. If they decide to adopt the child out after that's fine but to abort it should face reasonable hurdles tied to taking if needed legal action.

And I will note in the case of adult incest or rape if they have a longer term contraceptive in use it eliminates much of the risk of pregnancy then to.

 

....Uh...the rights to control the only thing truly her own. You know, that thing every single human uses to live their lives including YOU. Just to be clear and avoid possibly confusing your mind....I am referring to her Body.

And before you give the reply you will obviously spew...The ZEF does not yet have a comparable body, Would not even know if it did, is not yet capable of claiming rights, and has not been given them until birth.

Still....you did not actually tackle the issue I brought up:

How will you manage to remove an adult humans rights to live in order to instill them on something incapable of using them?

 

So the basis for pro-life beliefs is not "actual scientific facts about life," as you said, but religious doctrine. Thanks for that admission.

 

If she is pregnant and didn't want to be, she already lost control of her own body.

I have trouble understanding your poorly worded question.