The EU Vows to Stand Up To Bullies Like USA

I already know that you won't be able to defend the comment, so you can save your thumbs

 

It's some little factoid I learned when looking how much I'd owe on my imports before paying Import Duty and VAT on them.
Also, I just found this and it happens to back up this claim
https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/9...r-Tate-Lyle-British-food-European-Union-video

 

Yeah I heard that from somewhere else now too. I'm inclined to go with what you say.
****ing aasholes have been taxing us.

 

Well, 'we are in the EU'...

 

But, post Brexit, everything, be it from Germany, Ireland, France etc, might still see a duty be it a duty paid to Westminster idk.
So importing from Calais becomes like importing from New York City in to the EU.

 

Yes, I feel that once the UK government works out that tariffs = tax, they will soon learn to love them.

 

This is Britain, but, also...
The UK granted Independence to Australia and Canada and Jamaica etc with most unfavourable deals almost one sided against the UK when the UK lost its empire.
How does UK get the same from the EU empire, trade one sided to the UK like UK had to do when we gave up Australia.

 

It doesn't.

These trade deals with the Commonwealth were in return for diplomatic favour.
America does the same thing will all nations of it's empire/NATO.

It's not being repaid in trade, but influence.
It's bribing them.

The EU doesn't get it. It wants tribute.
It's not looking to buy our favour, it seeks to demand it. That's why it is fail.

 

Well how much does the EU need to work with the UK and vice versa on security and defence?

The EU must value something from the UK it's willing to trade for, no?

 

The EU doesn't want to deal on individual things it values. It wants to negotiate a package deal.
It feels it's monopoly power gives it advantage in this kind of a negotiation of this ilk.

It refuses to trade for things of mutual interest only.
"No cherry picking".


This is a trade deal we can't afford to take.
Only a bad deal for us can come from it.


The EU has no real military need at this time.
Med patrols for migrants perhaps.

Security? hmm only information sharing on UK criminals and deportation agreements fro EU criminals hiding in the UK.

 

Amusing whine from Brexiteers as they ignore how the US is attacking the European economy. Of course this is the unfortunate nature of most of them, describing the biggest reason why Brexit will cost us...

 

If we make no deal, then, might we make a better deal down the road?

 

No deal will maximise the harm for British workers.

 

It's possible, but just as ultimately, project fear didn't get the results intended because the UK was more interested in the politics than the money, the same is true of the EU.
They will cut off their noses to spite their faces, just as they have done with the EURO and indeed everything else.

There is no good deal with Europe. We don't want the same things.

We want a trade deal. They don't.
We don't want a political union. They do.

Any deal we make, we lose from.
No deal is preferred.


I would like to think that in the future when all the bad feeling has past, new deals could be made. But they won't want anything different in the future. It's the nature of the beast.

So, Ireland, then Gibraltar then Cyprus.
This **** continues until we elect a non Westminster party.
One that is not bribed by international business interests.

 

https://www.firstpost.com/world/don...ay-morph-into-something-very-big-4324479.html
Donald Trump hits out at EU over 'unfair trade policies' with US, says issue may morph into 'something very big'
London: The European Union trades with America "very unfairly", President Donald Trump said in an interview, warning that his many problems with Brussels "may morph into something very big".

"The European Union has treated the United States very unfairly when it came to trade," Trump told Britain's ITV channel in the interview conducted Thursday and aired
on Sunday.

"I've had a lot of problems with (the) European Union, and it may morph into something very big from that standpoint -- from a trade standpoint."


File photo of Donald Trump. AP

Trump delivered the warning during a wide-ranging interview on the sidelines of the World Economic Forum in Davos, where he took his "America First" agenda to the global business elite.

In a speech on Friday he told the forum that his mantra "does not mean America alone" and hinted that the US could rejoin the Trans-Pacific Partnership, a deal he withdrew from a year ago.

But earlier this month the Trump Administration imposed steep tariffs on imported washing machines and solar panels, and his interview comments may cause alarm in European capitals over future trade relations with the US.

Last year it vowed to impose nearly 300 percent punitive tariffs on airplanes manufactured by Canada's Bombardier.

A bipartisan US trade panel blocked that decision on Friday but the dispute, which has inflamed relations with Ottawa - and to a lesser degree Britain, where Bombardier has a large workforce - could be a harbinger for the EU.

"We cannot get our product in. It's very, very tough. And yet, they send their product to us - no taxes, very little taxes. It's very unfair," Trump added.


"They're not the only one, by the way, and I could name many countries and places that do (the same).

"But the European Union has been very, very unfair to the United States. And I think it will turn out to be very much to their detriment."


In other remarks aired on Sunday, Trump appeared to slight British prime minister Theresa May's handling of fraught Brexit negotiations, declaring that he would have
"negotiated it differently".

"I would have had a different attitude," he said of the talks, which have followed Britain's June 2016 referendum vote to leave the EU, and will continue through to its planned departure in March 2019.

"I think I would have said that the European Union is not cracked up to what it's supposed to be. And I would have taken a tougher stand in getting out," Trump added.

But May will welcome his prediction - reinforced by US Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin in Davos - that the US could swiftly strike a post-Brexit trade deal with London.

"We are going to make a deal with (the) UK that'll be great," he said, noting constraints imposed by the Brexit process.

"When that restriction is up we're going to be your great trading partner."

The US president also apologised for the first time for retweeting a British far-right group's videos apparently showing Islamist violence.