The Evidence for Israeli Involvement in 9/11

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  1. l4zarus

    l4zarus Member

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    I've highlighted the relevant kookiness in your post. No one is "dying for Israel". That is RWNJ anti-semite speak, the kind that sinked Cindy Sheehan's "career" as a left anti-war activist:

    https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!msg/bullyard/sxRhkXPH-Ks/Nhq-cxo7Un8J

    "Am I emotional? Yes, my first born was murdered. Am I angry? Yes, he
    >was killed for lies and for a PNAC Neo-Con agenda to benefit Israel.
    >My son joined the Army to protect America, not Israel."

    She tried to deny this, say she was hacked or some BS, but as anyone can see, she is blaming Israel for her son's death.

    No surprised she turned to 9/11 "twoof".

    Oh, and SOTT.net is the website of the Cassiopeia cult, run by a delusional haus frau living in a castle in France. No lie...

    https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Laura_Knight_Jadczyk
    http://americanloons.blogspot.com/2017/01/1784-laura-knight-jadczyk.html

    lol
     
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  2. Scott

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    This video is relevant to this issue as it's good to know the history.

    The Zionist Story (2010) [720p] Subtitles: PT-BR, SPA


    (This is the same video)
    The Zionist Story. (Full Documentary)



    It goes on and off line. You should always be able to find it here.
    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=The+Zionist+Story

     
  3. yasureoktoo

    yasureoktoo Banned

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    The Prophet (ﷺ) said, as per Sahih Al-Bukhari:

    "Were it not for the Jews, meat would not decay; and were it not for Eve, no woman would ever betray her husband."

    (Bukhari 60/72)
     
  4. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Donor

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    I don't care what Cindy Sheehan said but there is nothing "kooky" about the fact that AIPAC & Israel's Right Wing expansionists wanted the US to attack Iraq or that Americans are currently stationed in Israel to die for Israel(1), (2), (3) in event of hostilities Israel is working hard to provoke via unjustified attacks on Syria.

    What part of Trump's outright declaration that the US is remaining in the Mid East for Israel is confusing to you?

    "TRUMP: U.S. TROOPS WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-US-troops-will-remain-in-the-Middle-East-for-Israel-572997

    EXCERPT "We have reached a point where we don't have to stay in the Middle East. One reason to stay is Israel," U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday evening with an exclusive interview with the Washington Post."CONTINUED


    (1) "US Commander: ‘US Troops Prepared to Die for Israel’ in War against Syria, Hezbollah"
    https://www.mintpressnews.com/israe...a-harbinger-of-war-on-syria-hezbollah/238768/

    EXCERPT "In addition, Israel has been laying the groundwork for an invasion of Syria since last year and is largely responsible for the current conflict in Syria that has raged on for seven years. Israel’s current push to invade Syria is also based on flimsy evidence suggesting that Iran is establishing bases in Syria to target Israel."CONTINUED


    (2) "U.S. Soldiers Sacrificial Lambs"
    http://americanfreepress.net/u-s-soldiers-sacrificial-lambs/

    EXCERPT "During the recent bilateral military exercises, Air Force Lt. Gen. Richard Clark enthused that American soldiers are “prepared to die for the Jewish state” and also added that they would “probably” be under the command of Israeli Air Force Gen. Zvika Haimovitch, who would decide on the involvement of U.S. personnel. Haimovitch commented, “I am sure . . . we will find U.S. troops on the ground . . . to defend the state of Israel.”CONTINUED


    (3) "AMERICAN TROOPS HERE TO DEFEND ISRAEL"
    https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5151907,00.html

    EXCERPT "American tactical officers take to the stage, and say they're here to defend the State of Israel and its sovereignty as if they were fighting for their own country. They say they'll do anything to defend Israel. It's moving," he said."CONTINUED
     
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    yasureoktoo Banned

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    And please tell us "why" we have to remain in Israel.
     
  6. Grau

    Grau Well-Known Member Donor

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    That's just it. The US does not need to keep US Troops in Israel since unfettered & illegal(1) aid to Israel has ensured that they are the regional superpower in spite of its size.

    US Troops are in Israel because the Israeli right wing wants to enlist the US in its fight against Hezbollah which routed IDF in 2006.
    In other words, Netanyahu & his fellow hawks would rather expend American blood in its battles than Israeli blood.

    Currently, Hezbollah is only regarded as a "terrorist" organization by about 6 countries & spends roughly half of its budget on humanitarian aid and Social Services. That's why it's so popular especially in S. Lebanon & elsewhere in the area.

    America's aiding and abetting Israel's hawks who are trying to provoke Syria & Hezbollah with repetitive air strikes is neither in America's nor Israel's best interests.



    (1) "Lawsuit Claims Aid to Nuclear Israel Illegal Under Symington Glenn Amendments"
    https://www.corporatecrimereporter....ael-illegal-under-symington-glenn-amendments/

    EXCERPT "A lawsuit filed in federal court in Washington, D.C. claims that United States aid to Israel is illegal under a law passed in the 1970s that prohibits aid to nuclear powers that don’t sign the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty (NPT).

    Such aid violates longstanding bans on foreign aid to non-signatories to the Nuclear Non-proliferation Treaty (NPT) with nuclear weapons programs, the lawsuit alleges."CONTINUED
     
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    O'Keefe? I wouldnt use him at all for anything relating to Israeli right wing criticism.

    Norman Finklestien
    Victor Ostrovsky
    Miko Peled

    Far better choices
     
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    You're right.
    I respect and admire his efforts to bring attention to the longest, most brutal & ruthless, foreign funded Occupation in history and would supplement what he has to say with the authors listed in "Adam Fitzgerald's" Post #33 as well as others.

    Most students of the region already know the grisly history of Zionist terrorism, the Nakba & that Israel is one of the few countries whose populace repeatedly elected proven mass murderers to the highest office in the land.
    In a Just World, Begin, Shamir & Sharon would have been hung, not elected to P.M.
     
  10. l4zarus

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    And the fact he's a raving, racist loon is only a plus in your books:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_O'Keefe

    "According to the Southern Poverty Law Center O'Keefe is a "raving, David Duke-endorsing anti-Semite" who gives speeches to white supremacist groups."

    Anyone who actually cares about people in Gaza would stay a million miles away from a Nazi trashbag. Assuming you want to be effective and actually taken seriously.
     
  11. yasureoktoo

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    The southern poverty law center is a hate group.
     
  12. l4zarus

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    LOL okay.

    :crazy:
     
  13. l4zarus

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    None of which changes the fact "dying for Israel" is RWNJ anti-semite speak. FFS you linked to American Free Press:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Free_Press

    "
    The American Free Press is a weekly newspaper published in the United States.

    The newspaper's direct ancestor was The Spotlight, which ceased publication in 2001 when its parent organization, Liberty Lobby, was forced into bankruptcy. One of the paper's founders was Willis Carto, an influential white supremacist who promoted antisemitic conspiracy theories and Holocaust denial."



     
  14. Grau

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    Firstly, Wikipedia is unreliable when it comes to anything related to Israel etc because it has been infected with paid Israeli advocates specifically trained on how to edit Wikipedia(1), (2) to reject or endorse sources they like or dislike but you ignored the other two sources I cited.
    Why?

    The fact remains that American General Clark said that the American troops sent to defend Israel are prepared to "die for the Jewish State."(3)

    In addition to American Veterans and military families, it should concern every loyal American that in the event of hostilities Netanyahu is working to provoke with his air strikes on Syria, American Troops will be placed under Israeli command thereby making American G.I.s Netanyahu's pro bono cannon fodder.

    No where else in the world are American troops put under foreign command except Israel.

    Trump openly admitted that the only reason the US is in the Mid East is for Israel(4) which is what many of us have known since before the Iraq War(5).



    (1) "Wikipedia editing courses launched by Zionist groups"
    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2010/aug/18/wikipedia-editing-zionist-groups

    EXCERPT "Now two Israeli groups seeking to gain the upper hand in the online debate have launched a course in "Zionist editing" for Wikipedia, the online reference site.

    Yesha Council, representing the Jewish settler movement, and the rightwing Israel Sheli (My I srael) movement, ran their first workshop this week in Jerusalem, teaching participants how to rewrite and revise some of the most hotly disputed pages of the online reference site."CONTINUED


    (2) "How Israel and its partisans work to censor the Internet"
    https://israelpalestinenews.org/israel-partisans-work-censor-internet/

    EXCERPT "As it turns out, Israel and Israeli institutions employ armies of Internet warriors—from Israeli soldiers to students—to spread propaganda online and try to get content banned that Israel doesn’t want seen.

    Israel and partisans of Israel have long had a significant presence on the Internet, working to promote the Israel narrative and block facts about Palestine, the Israel lobby, and other subject matter they wish covered up

    Campaign to infiltrate Wikipedia

    CAMERA called for volunteers to secretly work on editing Wikipedia entries. It emphasized the importance of keeping the project secret. Volunteers were schooled in ways to elude detection. After they signed up as editors, they were to “avoid editing Israel-related articles for a short period of time.”CONTINUED


    (3) "U.S. AND IDF TROOPS, IN MAJOR JOINT DRILL, SIMULATING BATTLE ON 3 FRONTS"
    https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/J...-IDF-troops-simulating-missile-attacks-544598

    EXCERPT "“As far as decision-making, it is a partnership,” he continued, stressing nonetheless that “at the end of the day it is about the protection of Israel – and if there is a question in regards to how we will operate, the last vote will probably go to Zvika [Haimovitch].”

    And those US troops who would be deployed to Israel, are prepared to die for the Jewish state, Clark said."CONTINUED


    (4) "TRUMP: U.S. TROOPS WILL REMAIN IN THE MIDDLE EAST FOR ISRAEL"
    https://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Trump-US-troops-will-remain-in-the-Middle-East-for-Israel-572997

    EXCERPT "We have reached a point where we don't have to stay in the Middle East. One reason to stay is Israel," U.S. President Donald Trump said on Tuesday evening with an exclusive interview with the Washington Post."CONTINUED


    (5) "Quietly lobbying Congress to approve the use of force in Iraq was one of AIPAC's successes over the past year."

    AIPAC executive director Howard Kohr

    New York Sun in January 2003
     
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    If that's true it is clearly a violation of the Constitution. American military personnel cannot serve a foreign entity, that would be treason. Their primary obligation and mandate (per Oath) is to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution first and foremost and strictly answer to their superiors headed by the Commander-in-Chief (the US President) unless it violates the Constitution.
     
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    I already explained why Wikipedia is unreliable when it comes to unbiased Mid East sources in my post #39
     
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    Yeah, yeah, I'm sure it's all part of The Vast Conspiracy™....
     
  18. Grau

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    No, professionally trained Zionist Wikipedia editing is just good, old fashioned disinformation to effectively dupe people like you.


    (1) "Course: Zionist Editing on Wikipedia"



    (2) "The right's latest weapon: 'Zionist editing' on Wikipedia" Haaretz"
    https://turcopolier.typepad.com/sic...pon-zionist-editing-on-wikipedia-haaretz.html
    EXCERPT"Now the Yesha Council of settlements and another right-wing group, Israel Sheli, are embarking on a Wikipedia battle: Zionist editing on the Web-based encyclopedia.
    The course was designed to teach how to register for, contribute to and edit for Wikipedia."CONTINUED



    (3) "Zionist Control of WikiPedia"
    http://www.ascertainthetruth.com/at...ls-the-media/429-zionist-control-of-wikipedia

     
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    from the Zionist Control of Wikipedia article ...

    antisemitic much? ...
     
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    Yet this and other forums are replete with anti Islamic slurs, insinuations & accusations and there's not so much as a whimper of concern.

    Selective outrage much?

    Your post does absolutely nothing to refute the fact that Wikipedia is infected with professionally trained, paid & scripted Hasbara propagandists and is unreliable on topics concerning Israel, the Mid East etc.
     
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    Because people are sick of listening to your endless, "Hate the Jews", BS.
     
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    Quit lying...

    Or

    Show just one example in which I have expressed hatred toward the Jews.
     
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    Bollyn in a right-wing, holocaust denying, opportunist hack. He's also buddies with Steven "thermite" Jones(another hack), something a large swath of twoofers were unaware of until Bollyn's arrest. (Or maybe they didn't know who Bollyn was? The racist/anti-semite twoofers probably didn't know either, but when they found out, predictably shrugged.) Bollyn was really open about his buddy Stevie by 2007:

    http://www.bollyn.com/dr-steven-jones-appeals-for-fairness

    Dr. Steven Jones Appeals for Fairness
    May 23, 2007

    Dr. Steven E. Jones
    Provo, Utah
    23 May 2007

    To Whom It May Concern:

    I understand that my colleague and friend Christopher Bollyn was subjected to TASER shocking by members of the Hoffman Estates Police Department while he was handcuffed – in a community in your jurisdiction or area. I consider this barbaric action shameful and "cruel and unusual punishment," forbidden in the U.S. Constitution. I further understand that Christopher will now be subjected to a trial (Case No. 06MC3005170). In my opinion, it will be the Hoffman Estates Police Department and local leaders who will be on trial, if this trial goes forward.

    I have known Christopher Bollyn as a decent and loving family man. I respect him and the rights of all those who speak out in defense of Constitutional principles of human dignity and freedom as he has done in his job as an investigative reporter.


    /////

    A "decent and loving" man who blames Jews for 9/11. LOL forever. Remember, this conman/hack probably invented the "space beams" so called theory:

    http://www.politicalforum.com/index...-push-the-space-beams-no-planes-memes.363567/
     
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    Assuming this isn't BS from start to finish, I guarantee any informed Jewish relatives will, as soon as they hear of your immersion in the antisemitic conspiracy sewer of 9/11 Twoof, either rip you a new one or stop talking to you until you stop pushing Jew hating/baiting conspiracies.

    A couple of questions:

    1.You do know Bollyn is a Holocaust denier, right?
    2. Which camps were the survivors detained in?
     
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    Ask me if I care what you ASSume.
     

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