The face mask bashing has begun. Soon to be physical bashing of elderly and vulnerables.

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  1. ButterBalls

    ButterBalls Well-Known Member

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    In the same regard it a mistake to predict with literally millions hiding in a house too!

    Dont know that either with literally millions hiding in their houses!

    Whats scary fiction or nonfiction? The number are totally nonsense because of isolation.. Remember the Gubmint and the media have healthy people hiding too, so where are those number and how do those folks tie into the data base? News for you, they dont! They are literally a unknown along with WHO KNOWS how many that have actual antibodies from experiencing minimal symptons and those that have recovered without even contacting a doctor..
     
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  2. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    You just called 1,000s of doctors who fill out and sign the death certificates "liars".

    Now, let that sink in.

    "A lie shoots halfway around the world before the truth can even get its boots on".


    What you have done here is just plain old wrong. Of course, I do not expect you to have enough decency to admit it. That is generally a bridge too far for the COVID-19-deadender crowd out there. So, pffffft.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    YEPP.
     
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    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    This is untrue. Patently untrue. One should not spread falsehoods. 1.74 million Americans have been infected, almost 102,000 have not died and only 483,000 have been classified as recovered, not 1.4 million. From 3 minutes ago:

    2020-05-027 COVID-19 USA.png
     
  5. MrTLegal

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    I don't even think you know what you are trying to say here.
     
  6. Statistikhengst

    Statistikhengst Well-Known Member

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    Sorry. "not" should read as "now". I'm typing while the train is rolling. Bumpy ride.
     
  7. ButterBalls

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    You know what I was saying, you just don't know how to spin this pandemic when you are confronted with the fact that tons of pertinent data is not available ;)

    To put it simply as not to confuse,
    A. There isn't accurate data to even say how many have survived, because the healthy and survivors of mild cases are all hiding ..
    B. There is no way to tell how lethal this virus is because <See A.>
    C. Don't be scared of lethality because <See A.>
     
  8. Quantum Nerd

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    So, you are denying asymptomatic transmission? Show evidence that this is the case.
     
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    FreshAir Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I agree the government should provide more mental care for those that need it, but can't afford it - wasn't it Reagan that did away with that?
     
  10. SkullKrusher

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    I think I’m going to wear a snoopy mask w/ goggles and a scarf around my neck next trip to grocery store:)
     
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    Absolutely not, just another unknown factor not being full examined!! Thanks for the addition!
     
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    So let’s see. Trump supporters have labeled journalist as liars, teachers as liars, scientists as liars, anyone who didn’t vote for Trump, as liars, teenagers as liars, all foreigners as liars, our Allies as liars, poor people as liars, black people as liars ... and now they are calling doctors liars.

    Bless their Hearts.
     
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    Got some proof?
    how about of effective cloth masks are?
     
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    CLOTH MASKS PROTECT FROM ONLY 3% OF PARTICLES
    Additionally, researchers found 97% of particles penetrated cloth masks, 44% of particles penetrated medical masks, and <0.01-0.1% of particles penetrated N95 masks.
    https://www.ems1.com/ems-products/p...snt-adequate-healthcare-ppe-4fuuWuS6YYZs9xJg/

    A cough or sneeze is most likely as much aeorsolized particles as non.
     
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    they (who dey) want criminals to rob without getting caught
     
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    Here is a really good write up on some of the current levels of research regarding the effectiveness of masks. The TLDR is that masks, even the cloth ones, provide some protection and some protection is better than none. But they should not be relied upon to get us back to normal and the primary benefit they provide is for limiting the ability to infect others as opposed to preventing yourself from being infected.

    https://www.livescience.com/are-face-masks-effective-reducing-coronavirus-spread.html
     
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    that 1.4 million is the tip of the iceberg. The number is probably past 20 million or more. We only tested people with symptoms. I just found out that a friend had blood work and guess what, has antibodies and never a symptom
     
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    From the link

    One study, published April 6 in the journal Annals of Internal Medicine, found that they did not. That study, led by South Korean researchers, involved asking four patients with COVID-19 to cough into a petri dish 7.8 inches (20 centimeters) away. The patients coughed without masks, while wearing a disposable surgical mask and again wearing a 100% cotton mask.

    Neither mask meaningfully decreased the viral load coughed onto the petri dishes. But experts not involved in the study who were contacted by Live Science were hesitant to put much stock into the findings. The researchers didn't look at distances beyond 7.8 inches to see if droplets didn't travel as far while people were wearing masks, Chu said.

    "They didn't measure 2 feet or 3 feet or 4 feet," she said.

    I saw that in my search. They didn't give specifics as to effectiveness. Only to say, something is better than nothing.

    But is it really?

    If one thinks they are protected or protecting others with a shoddy mask, to me that is more dangerous than one without being conscious of where their mouth and nose face when being in close proximity to someone.

    To me, cloth masks just aren't good enough. And wearing one is no better than not wearing one.

    Surgical masks, which I see more and more of, supposedly block about 50% of virus particles. Good, but still not what I call safe.
     
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    They are a mainly a feel good measure. Liberals love a good feel good measure rather they work or not. See gun control in CA, NY, IL, DC etc for a real world example of feel good measures that fail at fixing the issues.
     
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    That would only further my point that more recover than die from this virus.
     
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    Your understanding of the 'right of choice' is rather far off target.

    The right of choice is choosing for yourself, not for others. Perhaps you need to refresh yourself on that.
     
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    There are a number of viruses that virtually 'everybody' carries, that remain latent or asymptomatic. I haven't seen an outcry of pandemic, we're all gonna die! for those viruses....
     
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    It’s starting to look like it’s going to require a completely sealed clear bubble over the head with an oxygen tank back sack.
    If that’s the solution,then might as well have the complete biohazard suit to cover rest of the body, since WHO knows what kind of weaponized biological agent/virus the terrorists may unleash in the near future
     
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    but this is an election year and orange man bad
     
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    Since I don't know you well enough to know if that is humor, or sincerity, I'll leave it be.

    p.s. you forgot the really bad combover....
     

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