The Fair Vote

Discussion in 'Elections & Campaigns' started by LafayetteBis, Nov 19, 2019.

  1. rahl

    rahl Well-Known Member

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    Are you seriously not aware that American citizens vote for the president every 4 years? You are totally unaware that hundreds of millions voted in 2016? Lol
     
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    So you're not actually referencing any constitutional procedure?
     
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    Some people did not get past a 6th grade civics class and do not understand how our government is organized and how it works.
     
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    Correct there was no national popular election, never has been. Had there been voting would have been entirely different. Tallying up the 51 separate and unique elections and proclaiming that would be the same result had there been one national vote is statistical and election folly.
     
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    Wow, how have you never known about voting for president?
     
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    The electors appointed by the several states choose the president. Of course I know this.
     
  7. rahl

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    Awesome. Nobody said they didn’t. But you also know the people vote for president in all 50 states.
     
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    Can you cite the article and section that describes this process?
     
  9. rahl

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    Why? When did I say it was in an article? How are you unaware that millions of Americans vote for the president every 4 years? It’s kind of a big deal
     
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    They can't be voting for the president. Only the electors chosen by the several sovereign states vote for the president. So the question is, what are they voting for?
     
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    but they quite demonstrably are.

    No, the electoral select the president.

    The people vote for the president. It’s a huge deal every 4 years. Is your house under a rock or something?
     
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    And who did the electorate select in the past presidential election?
     
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    Where have I ever claimed they didn’t select trump? I don’t understand why you can never address what I actually say.
     
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    The people voted for Trump? This is what you're now saying?
     
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    No, the people voted for Clinton by almost 3 million more votes. The EC selected the president the people soundly rejected.
     
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    So Clinton is the president? Because she won by almost 3 million votes?
     
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    Strawman
     
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    Huh? You said that the people vote for the president. You also claimed that perhaps I live under a rock.

    And they you say that the people who voted for the president cast 3 million more votes for Clinton.

    So I don't really think it's a strawman to ask you why Clinton, who won the vote for president by 3 million votes, is not actually the president.
     
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    You made up an argument and attributed it to me. I called you on it. Where did you get lost?
     
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    I don't see how she could have lost if she got 3 million more votes than her opponent.
     
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    I don’t see why you think pretending and playing this game fools anyone?
     
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    No I am curious as well, Hillary won the popular vote by 3 million people, why isn't she president?

    Can you explain it to us deplorables?
     
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    Affirmative action, aka the electoral college.
     
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    Kentucky only has a black population of .005%
     
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    Mars has red soil. See I can say irrelevant and stupid **** too.
     

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