The Free markets simply CANNOT manage affordable healthcare.

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  1. yguy

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    Doesn't matter, because atheists have them just like everyone else. You're welcome.

    It's only idiotic to people who don't understand it, whether because they're psychopaths or for some other reason. You're welcome.

    No, that is subhuman nature - to which the law will always cater, insofar as it written absent understanding of human nature.

    Which of course is only impressive to dullards. The rest of us should be aware that the humanity of those who gainsay the reality of unalienable rights has surely been compromised.

    On the contrary, it is, as C.S. Lewis once put it, too definite for words.

    Anyone who thinks liberty isn't a basic human need has no idea what a human being is.
     
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    there are no god given rights

    there are no natural rights, can't be proven, it's subjective, unlike laws of nature like gravity.. try jumping off a building and breaking law of gravity.

    'subhuman' is still human..


    need yes, right? debatable.
     
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    Yeah right I've got over 170 hours of college credits enough for a masters had I specialized rather than generalized. Please explain to me why you think it costs nothing to spend damn near endless hours supplying the government with compliance forms filled out in triplicate which almost no one ever reads, unless some bureaucrat suddenly gets PO'd for some reason. The suckers are the idiots that think endless government rules and regulations from 4 different levels of government bare no costs..
     
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    Yeah sure and forfeit the subsidies and bear the costs of the government's tardiness in paying those subsidies.
     
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    That is like asking me. Why did everything work so well from 1946 - 1983. Before that time, we had a BS economy of farming, up until the crash, we put in place Glass-steagall to separate the investment banks from banks because of a REASON. Right there is proof that man cannot be trusted to govern themselves. It will all just happen again. That "helped" lead to the depression. Roosevelt create many many GOVERNMENT programs to put people to work. Those were all jobs that paid enough to get people back on their feet. What we don't have to prop us up is another War following directly afterwards. This is what Reagan, Bush, and Clinton didn't have to help continue the economy. Not the little wars we get today. That was a big deal then, created all kinds of jobs in the war, and at home.
    Back to 46 - 83... I get it, I dont think we should have mass paperwork, endless bureaucratic BS either. Just to let you know, today things are computerized and not nearly as difficult as then, thus what is the big deal ? Really, there isn't, but what is the best way to convince the CONSUMER that it is cumbersome and all too too much ? Make it sound like a burden and costing the public money.
    What is wrong with a gov't job ? Nothing at all, but the private sector guy that wants all the money, deregulation, and just MORE for himself wants those jobs to be private, thus he makes more and the worker makes less.
    What is wrong with Fracking ? I don't know from experience, I am not out there, but I have seen Documentaries that show gas in the water... Does it sound like a good thing to pump chemicals into the ground where drinking water is, all in the name of helping some rich guy get richer and create a few jobs ? What is the benefit ? Keeping gas prices down ? They BLOCKED the electric car for a reason, to help the few rich guys continue to make big bucks in the gas and oil business.
    Rich people are really good at PR, the have PR people and money in place to make anything look good and anything look bad... AMerican's, not the working class, but the super rich need controlled to prevent all jobs from becoming 15$ an hour job. Free market only works when regulated, it has been proven over and over again. Yet, this big PR program ran by the rich thru the republicans is working on another generation. They are not going to come at you and say, I am rich, listen to me while I screw you over.
     
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    I have no idea how you think this addresses anything I said.
     
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    Sorry not really. Glass-Steagal was a piece fo redundant anti trust legislation. If the wanted to prevent such mergers it could have been done with or without Glass-Steagal. We aren't pumping chemicals into the ground where drinking water is. Most are headed thousands of feet below the water table. in between impermeable layers of rock. You've got gas in the water where no fracking has ever occurred and some of those are faked.
     
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    Pretty sad when people imagine that, through mindless repetition, they can impart truth value to rancid imbecilities.

    no u

    Seriously, though, I don't recommend it. While in your case it would obviously improve the average quality of the posts here, it wouldn't prove a damn thing about unalienable rights, since everyone with a lick of sense knows they can be forfeit by their owners.

    No it isn't. That's the point.

    Only to those with a serpentine mindset.
     

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