The GOP didn't take the chance to rid itself of Trump, now they have to live with the consequences

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  1. Quantum Nerd

    Quantum Nerd Well-Known Member

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    After Jan 6th, the GOP had a golden opportunity to rid itself of Trump. They could have impeached him. They could have made him an outcast. However, they punted, going for short term political gain with the Trump base, rather than doing the right thing for the country.

    Now, they have to live with the consequences. Moderates like Haley, Romney, Cheney, Sasse, etc. are shunned at the CPAC, or even singled out by Trump in an attempt of revenge. On the other hand, the Trump train seems to be moving even further to the fringe, and to full blown Trumpism. Who are the ones who now control the party? Trump puppets who do his bidding.

    In other words, the 2024 GOP front runners, aside from Trump himself, are DeSantis, Hawley, Don Jr., Noem and Cruz. Seemingly, Trump is fully calling the shots as to who will have a chance and who will be cast aside. The party has now fully become the Trump party. Isn't is sad when loyalty to a man supersedes loyalty to the country? Even more sad that the party fully embraces a man who openly tried to overthrow a lawful election. One could only imagine what would happen if Trump would get another chance in 2024.
     
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    joesnagg Well-Known Member

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    Oh, dream, dream on! You SERIOUSLY think within a year Trump is going to be the kingmaker of the party? Or even more laughable be the candidate in 2024? If so, have I got a deal for you...cheap too! bridge.jpg
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Nobody wants Trump as president again. That would be like the left wanting Hillary to run again. The right supports Trump to drive the left crazy. Seems to work well.
     
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    Darthcervantes Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't remember where I saw the article but I read something earlier that said 68% of the people in attendance DON'T want Trump to run again, but his speech was ranked the highest, way higher than any others there so perhaps he was there to energize people. There is really no way to 100% know at this point.
     
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    Lee Atwater Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    Putting that false analogy aside..........why don't you want Trump to run again?
     
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    Yes for those who cannot tell the difference between performance trolling and leadership
     
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    You wouldn't know it based on the hard-ons many have for him.
     
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    The Centrist Well-Known Member

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    It speaks volumes about the Republican Party when the ideology being embraced is closer to McCarthy than Goldwater. Traditional conservatism has been cast aside in favor of reactionary populism.
     
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    Josh77 Well-Known Member Past Donor

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    I don't like his environmental policies at all. I think the US should have stayed with the Paris accord and try to be a world leader in influencing nations around the world to do their part. At times I liked his personality, but in other situations I couldnt stand it. He seemed to go backwards instead of forwards in environmental protections.

    I didn't like his personality. Sometimes it was amusing, other times annoying.

    There were probably other things, but that's a start. He was still better than hillary or biden though.
     
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    That is convoluted reasoning. I was opposed to impeaching because the decision on whether he should be allowed to run should not be by congress. That decision should be made by the voting public.
     
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    Exactly. Other politicians should have zero say in who stays or goes. That is what voting is for.
     
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    First there is no guarantee that Trump will still be alive four years now.
    2nd at the rate Biden's going 2/3s of the country will be begging for Trump or Dos Santos or anyone with a pulse in 2 years that isn't a Democrat.
    3rd Trump got 55% of the voters at Cpac Dos Santos 20 something the rest were in low single digits.
    Where everything will be four years from now is annyone's guess
     
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    I agree with this, but nothing would surprise me with Trump.
     
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    If you consider laughing their asses off to be the same as driven crazy, then you'd be correct.

    I haven't heard the administration mention Trump's name once.
     
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    All I got from the post was CANCEL, CANCEL, CANCEL him....
     
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    ORLANDO, Fla. — After days of insisting they could paper over their intraparty divisions, Republican lawmakers were met with a grim reminder of the challenge ahead on Sunday when former President Donald J. Trump stood before a conservative conference and ominously listed the names of Republicans he is targeting for defeat.

    As Democrats pursue a liberal agenda in Washington, the former president’s grievances over the 2020 election continue to animate much of his party, more than a month after he left office and nearly four months since he lost the election. Many G.O.P. leaders and activists are more focused on litigating false claims about voting fraud in last year’s campaign, assailing the technology companies that deplatformed Mr. Trump and punishing lawmakers who broke with him over his desperate bid to retain power.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/28/...action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage

    To the surprise of no one Trump's speech was about revenge, grievance, and absolute fidelity to him.............to the exclusion of policy proposals, expanding the party's base, and what is best for the country.
     
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    Lock him up, lock him up!...lol.....Anyone who follows him are as loony as the king!
     
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    Energize people around what, vitriol for the sake of vitriol?
     
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    To energize people that are super butt hurt after losing pretty much the entire government. Trumps speeches are usually uplifting and devoid of doom and gloom. Bring your hate elsewhere...his speech was positive and uplifting and he was clearly trolling the left by hinting at 2024 run and it sorta looks like you took the bait
     
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    But then again Trump and the GOP have no platform other than hate, ignorance, and finding joy in the hurting of other Americans.....
    Trump spewed vitriol for 5 years.....They love it....screw helping people....Just help the rich.
     

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