The Great Barrier Reef is Doing Just Fine

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  1. Daniel Light

    Daniel Light Well-Known Member

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    Because it includes people who actually DIVE on the reefs and have first hand accounts of what is happening rather than
    some dude sitting in grandma's basement who has never spent time under the water on the reef.

    Hmmm, who to believe? Divers who visit the reef constantly? Or random internet dude? Questions ... questions ...
     
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  2. Jack Hays

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    The interesting thing is that the alarmist reporting was done from the air.
     
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    And under the water.

    Dude - you're talking to someone who has spent the last two decades working with the Coral Reef Restoration projects in the Florida Keys ... I've seen first hand what has happened, so forgive me for calling bullcrap on random guy on the internet claiming, "everything is wonderful".
     
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  4. Jack Hays

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    Then I'm sure you'll be interested in the posted data.
     
  5. Daniel Light

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    I'm sure I'll trust my own eyes first.
     
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    Thank you for your service.
     
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    humans have been doing a lot to restore the reefs, seems to be helping

    good news if true

    humans can have a good and bad effect on the enviornment for sure
     
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    funny they want to try to say that proves climate change is not real, rather than thank those that helped the reefs
     
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  9. Jack Hays

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    Your service is not in question. However:

    Fly-Past Coral Surveys, And

    February 11, 2021 By jennifer

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    This morning, Peter Ridd’s legal team will be asking the High Court to hear his appeal against his sacking by James Cook University. The High Court does not agree to hear most cases. They consider cases that have a wider legal implication. His … [Read more...]

    ". . . My issues relate specifically to the aerial surveys of coral bleaching by Terry Hughes from which it has been concluded that the Great Barrier Reef is half dead.

    There has been very little scrutiny of the methodology underpinning these aerial surveys. It is actually impossible to make any meaningful assessment of coral reef health from more than 120 metres above a coral reef – which is the altitude from which Professor Hughes has been conducting his flyovers. It is easy enough to demonstrate this by putting a drone up over different habitat at the same, and different, coral reefs. I’ve also been getting in and under the water to assess the corals close-up.

    This is all explained in a new ‘coral reef’ page at my website, from which you can click-on and see some of the transects we ran at the reefs we visited. It is still in a work in progress: https://jennifermarohasy.com/coralreefs/ . . . ."
     
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    Well, if Jennifer says the reefs are OK and a disgraced and fired professor say the reefs are OK - then who am I, and all
    the people work on reef restoration and have been diving in those areas for decades - well, who are we to question
    such eminent sources.



    WTF. Really?
     
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    Just pointing out that Terry Hughes did slipshod work and Peter Ridd was fired for exposing that. James Cook University may regret their action to suppress academic freedom.
     
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    Alarmism over the GBR is all hype and little data.
    Great Barrier Reef Not In Danger
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    The important point here is that the reef has recovered well in 2021 as any healthy ecosystem will. This does not mean that we don’t study and attempt to understand…
     
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    Many of the true believers take the alarmists word for it without looking into the claims and dismiss anyone that actually checks up on the hype.
     
  14. Jack Hays

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    Sooner or later the data trump ideology, as now.
    What a recovery! Hottest ever year causes… coral reefs to grow
    Life bounces back
    The Great Barrier Reef has had a good year. 2020 might have been the hottest or the second hottest year on record, but it was a bonanza year for reef recovery.

    The reef covers 344,400 square kilometres, survived the Holocene Optimum, the Minoan warming, the Roman warming and the Medieval Warming, and is already recovering from a streak of few nasty El Ninos and a cyclone or two.

    But the bottom line is that coral deaths are not easily relateable or predicted by hot weather or high CO2. If sea level changes or temperature volatility are the real culprits, the ocean currents or cloud cover may be the driver, and not the number of cars or solar panels in Australia.

    As Peter Ridd has said for years: The Great Barrier Reef has about the same amount of coral as it did in 1985 . . .
     
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    Data don't lie.
    What climate disaster? The Great Barrier Reef has more coral growing on it than ever recorded
    The coral cover as sampled by AIMS across the entire Great Barrier Reef is not just good, but better than it has ever been in the 36 years they have been studying it. If the reef is in danger — it’s from being overgrown with coral. Climate Change, such as it is, has caused no trend at all.

    If anything, in the spirit of modern-media-science, climate change causes record coral growth.

    Tonight the UN scientists decided not to list the reef as “in danger”. The ABC and every Green group who normally follow UN scientists slavishly said that was “only because of lobbying”.

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    Record Coral Cover on the Great Barrier Reef.

    The new AIMS report on Monday showed the Great Barrier Reef had a remarkable recovery, but the graphs were of three different sections of the reef (North, central and South). Peter Ridd obtained all the data and combined it to make one graph and discovered that the coral cover of 2020 was a new all time record high.

    Strangely none of the government agencies or paid Professors discovered this. You have to be unemployed to discover record coral growth. . . .
     
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    The Great Barrier Reef is not fine and nor is it dying; truth is inbetween | AIMS

    "Our 40 years of data clearly show the largest and most diverse reef system in the world is under growing pressure from the combined effects of coral bleaching, outbreaks of coral-eating crown-of-thorns starfish, cyclones and poor water quality. Today, there are still many parts of the reef that remain in excellent condition – the ecosystem has huge in-built resilience that allows coral to recover when given the chance – but the number of such reefs has been declining over time. And the number of reefs in poor condition is increasing."

    "In the past 20 years, climate change has emerged as the single biggest threat to the future of the GBR and reefs worldwide. The evidence is clear and unequivocal. Corals are highly susceptible to small changes in water temperature. Warming of as little as 1C maintained for eight weeks is enough to cause coral bleaching – which can lead to death. Mass bleaching, unheard of before the 1990s, is now becoming a regular occurrence, with major events in 1998, 2002, 2010, 2016, 2017 and 2020. We now know coral reefs take about a decade to recover after serious damage. Mounting evidence suggests that as reefs recover, they are changing in composition and diversity. And as marine heatwaves become more frequent, there is less and less time for recovery. It’s a vicious spiral."

    "Despite this year’s good news, the trend is clear, and the next major bleaching event is only ever a summer away. All the planet’s coral reefs face the same threat. If global emissions are not brought under control, and quickly, the vast majority of reefs around the world will disappear by mid-century, and those that remain will look very different to those we enjoy today. Reducing emissions alone will no longer be enough. There is already so much warming locked into the global system we also need to do everything we can to bolster reef resilience now."
     
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    To repeat from #40:
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    Record Coral Cover on the Great Barrier Reef.
     
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    He ignored the article and the evidence, surprised?
     
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    You must be ecstatic that ocean temps are down this year. Even the RCMP5 data are showing the drop. Yea Haaa....
     
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    So much for imaginary ocean acidification.
    Fear Not, IPCC’s Electric Kool-Aid Ocean Acid Claims are Hallucinations
    ALARMIST MESSENGERS/CLAIMS AUGUST 12, 2021

    ". . . Chapter One pg. 169 of the AR6 states,

    ncreasing atmospheric carbon dioxide concentrations lead to increasing acidification of the ocean. Projections based on SRES scenarios give reductions in average global surface ocean pH of between 0.14 and 0.35 units over the 21st century, adding to the present decrease of 0.1 units since preindustrial times.”

    The numbers cited in this statement may or may not reflect reality. It’s hard to know since the purported decline is based not on an actual measurement of average ocean alkalinity, but rather is conjecture based on computer model simulations. Regardless, the claim that a modest decline in pH is “increasing acidification of the ocean,” is false. To increase acidification, oceans must first be acidic. They are not. . . . "
     
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    The alarmists can't keep their story straight.

    The Madness of John Pandolfi and Michelle Gunn
    September 8, 2021 By jennifer 13 Comments

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    Next time you read that such and such a percentage of the Great Barrier Reef has already been destroyed by humankind, laugh out loud! I say that not to offend, and not because I don’t care about the corals, but because it is better to laugh than to be drawn into their madness.

    According to a completely mad research paper published by John Pandolfi and ten other reef researchers – each a high-profile marine biologist including Terry Hughes from the Australian Research Council Centre of Excellence for Coral Reef Research – the Great Barrier Reef was pristine before the arrival of humans. According to Pandolfi et al. published in the prestigious journal Science in 2003 (entitled ‘Global Trajectories of the Long-Term Decline of Coral Reef Ecosystems’) a rather large 25 percent of the inner Great Barrier Reef was destroyed with the arrival of Australian aborigines.

    Except that when the Aborigines arrived much of the region known today as the Great Barrier Reef was open Eucalyptus woodland. . . .
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    I recall that bleaching event. I took apart the claims even at that time. Science does not work as they alleged it did.
    I wish those naysayers treated you with respect and stopped attacking you for doing science correctly.
     
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